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UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 BANGKOK TH 06001
UNCLASSIFIED 0052 FEB 93
DIA PASS TO DDO POW-MIA CENTRAL DOCUMENTATION OFFICE
SUBJ: SRV ORAL HISTORY INTERVIEW WITH FORMER ENEMY PROSELYTING
CADRE NGUYEN VAN HUNG
REF:DET 1, JTFFA MSG 200341Z JAN 93
1. REF WAS THE SUMMARY REPORT OF ACTIVITIES CONDUCTED IN VIETNAM BY
JTFFA SPECIAL ASSISTANT, MR G.E. BELL, DURING THE PERIOD 6 TO 18 JAN 93.
PARA 2F OF REF REFERS TO FORMER ENEMY PROSELYTING CADRE NGUYEN
VAN HUNG WHO WAS INTERVIEWED IN DANANG CITY ON 14 JAN 93. THE
INTERVIEW WAS MONITORED BY ASSIGED COUNTERPART AND MINISTRY OF
NATIONAL DEFENSE (MND) REP, LTC PHAM TEO, AND MINISTRY OF THE
INTERIOR (MOI) REP, ME HA MINH THAN. THE FOLLOWING REPORT PROVIDES
THE RESULTS OF THE INTERVIEW.
2. SOURCE, A NATIVE OF DANANG, STUDIED ENGLISH AT THE VIETNAMESE-
AMERICAN ASSOCIATION: (HCI VIET MY) IN HOI AN UNTIL 1964 WHEN HE
DECIDED TO JOIN THE REVOLUTION. SOURCE SAID HIS ENGKISH TEACHER IN
HOI AN WAS "MR BAKER". SOURCE SAID HE HAD A SECOND ENGLISH TEACHER
WHOSE NAME HE COULD NOT RECALL, BUT BELIVES THE PERSON MIGHT BE A
"MR TOM MALIA" HE HAS HEARD ABOUT AROUND DANANG. (I.E. TOM MALIA
WHO IS CURRENTLY WORKING FOR THE ODERLY DEPARTURE PROGRAM).
SOURCE SAID THAT AFTER HE JOINED THE REVOLUTION IN 1964, HE WAS
ASSIGNED TO THE MILITARY-ENEMY PROSELYTING OFFICE (MEPO) OF QUANG
DA SPECIAL ZONE. AAFTER A FEW MONTHS, SOURCE WAS ASSIGNED TO THE
MEPO OF MILITARY REGION (MR) 5. AT THAT TIME THE MRS CAMP WAS
LOCATED NEAR THE BOARDER OF QUANG NAM (I.E. GVN QUANG TIN)
PROVINCE QUANG NGAI PROVINCE.
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3. SOURCE SAID HE WAS RECENTLY INTERVIEWED BY JTFFA PERSONNEL IN
DANANG. CONCERING THE MR5 CAMP AND HAD NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD.
SOURCE SAID HE DID NOT KNOW THE SPECIFIC LOCATION OF ANY GIVES
CONTAINING US REMAINS. SOURCE SAID HE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANY US
PERSONNEL REMAINING IN VIETNAM. SOURCE SAID HE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE
CONCERING US PERSONNEL WHO WERE MOVED TO THIRD COUNTRIES AFTER
BEING CAPTURED.
4. WHEN ASKED SPECIFICALLY CONCERNING CASE 1456 (SPARKS). SOURCE
SAID HE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS CASE. AFTER HEARING
THE CIRCUMSTANCES, SOURCE OPINED THAT IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR
HIM TO HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE REGARDING CASE 1456. DUE TO A POLICY
CHANGE THAT OCCURRED SHORTLY AFTER THE 1968 "TET" GENERAL
OFFENSIVE. SOURCE EXPLAINED THAT SHORTLY AFTER "TET", INSTRUCTIONS
WERE ISSUED TO THE EFFECT THAT NO MORE WOUNDED US PERSONNEL
WOULD BE MOVED FROM THEIR CAPTURE POINT TO BE DETAILED IN THE MRS
CAMP. SOURCE SAID THESE INSTRUCTIONS WERE ISSUED DUE TO THE FACT
THAT THERE WAS ABSOLUTFLY NO MEDICAL CARE AVAILABLE AT THE CAMP,
WHICH HAD RESULTED IN THE DEATHS OF SEVERAL AMERICANS DURING
EARLY 1968.
5. SOURCE DID VAGUELY RECALL ONE OCCASSION SOMETIME DURING 1969
WHEN HE WAS TASKED TO PROVIDE FOR A WOUNDED AMERICAN POW.
SOURCESAID HE TRAVELLED ON FOOT TO A POW TRANSFER POINT WHICH WAS
LOCATED ABOUT THREE TO FOUR HOURS WALKING DISTANCE FROM THE MRS
CAMP. SOURCE SAID HE INTERPRETED FOR PERSONNEL OF THE CAPTURING
UNIT (DESIGNATION NOT RECALLED BUT POSSIBLY THE PAVN 2ND DIV) FOR
ONE BRIEF PERIOD. SOURCE CLAIMED TO BE UNABLE TO PROVIDE A PHYSICAL
DESCRIPTION OF THE AMERICAN, AND COULD ONLY RECALL THAT THE
AMERICAN WAS A MALE CAUCASIN. SOURCE RECALLED THE MAN WAS BADLY
WOUNDED, BUT COULD NOT RECALL THE NATURE OF HIS WOUNDS. SOURCE
ALSO COULD NOT RECALL NAME OF THE PERSON WHO GUIDED HIM TO THE
TRANSFER POINT, OR THE IDENTIES OF ANY OF THE PERSONNEL WHO WERE
PRESENT AT THE TRANSFER POINT, INCLUDING GUARDS. AFTER A BRIEF
PERIOD OF INTERPRETING FOR THE WOUNDED AMERICAN, SOURCE RETURNED
TO THE MRS CAMP AND DID SEE OR HEAR ABOUT THE AMERICAN AGAIN.
SOURCE CLAIMED HE WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AND COULD NOT EVEN
SPECULATE AS TO WHERE THE AMERICAN WAS TAKEN. SOURCE SAID HE
COULD NOT RECALL ANY MEDICAL FACILITIES IN THE AREA.
6. WHEN ASKED CONCERNING ANY OTHER WARTIME CADRE WHO MIGHT BE
CAPABLE OF PROVIDING INFORMATION REGARDING US PERSONNEL SOURCE
PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING:
A. MR PHAN TAN TRINE, A NATIVE OF QUANG NAM-DANANG, WAS THE CHIEF
OF THE MRS MILITARY PROSELYTING ELEMENT OF THE MEPO. MR TRINE IS
CURRENTLY ASSIGNED AS THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN OF THE DAC LAC PROVINCE
PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE AND RESIDES IN BAN ME THUAT CITY.
B. MR THAN DANG, A NATIVE OF QUANG NAM-DANG, WAS THE COMMANDER
OF THE MRS CAMP. SOURCE IS NOT SURE CONCERNING THE CURRENT
WHEREABOUTS OR EMPLOYMENT STATUS OF MR DANGBUT BELIVES HE MAY
BE RETIRED AND RESIDING IN DANANG.
C. MR MAI PHUONG, A NATIVE OF QUANG NGAI PROVINCE, WAS THE DEPUTY
COMMANDER OF THE MRS CAMP. SOURCE BELIVES MR DANG IS NOW RETIRED
AND RESIDING IN QUANG NGAI TOWN.
7. COMMENT:
A. SOURCE WAS PROFESSIONALLY EVASIVE AND MAINTAINED HIS COMPOSURE
THROUGHOUT THE INTERVIEW, BUT AT TIMES DID SEEN EMBARRASED TO
STATE HIS LACK OF KNOWLEDGE CONCERNING SUBJECTS HE COULD
REASONABLY BE EXPECTED TO HAVE A GOOD GRASP OF. SOURCE'S ATTITUDE
GAVE THE IMPRESSION HE EXPECTS TO BE INTERVIEWED AGAIN. AS INDICATED
IN PREVIOUS INTERVIEWS, SOURCE WAS FAMILIAR WITH PERSONNEL IN THE
MRS CAMP ASSOCIATED WITH ALREADY RESOLVED CASES.
B. IN ADDITION TO NOT BEING WILLING TO PROVIDE DETAILED INFORMATION
CONCERNING THE WARTIME APPARTUS IN MRS, SOURCE WAS ALSO NOT
WILLING TO DISCUSS HIS POST WAR TRAVELS IN THE FORMER SOVIET UNION.
SOURCE WOULD ONLY STATE THAT HE SPENT TWO YEARS IN THE FORMER
SOVIET UNION STUDYING PHILOSOPHY. SOURCE IS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED AS
AN ENGLISH LANGUAGE INSTRUTOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF DANANG.
ALTHOUGH DIFFICULT TO SETERMINE WITH ONLY THIS LIMITED CONTACT
WITH SOURCE, HE DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE A GOOD COMMAND OF THE
ENGLISH LANGUAGE.
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