[1109302Z.OH 06/16/96] 1/2 DS UNCLASSIFIED CJTF-FADETONEBA 006001/01 ORIGIN CJTF2 INFO DCM POL SA PW/MIA EXA DALO INHB (9) VZCZC RR RUHQHQE RUMTFS RUEHPF RUEKJCS RUEKJCS RUHQHQB RUEKJCS RUEKJCS RUALLA RUHVAAA RUEADWW RUEHC DE RUEHEK #6001/01 042 ** ZNR UUUUU CLASS: UNCLASSIFIED R 1109302 FEB 93 CHRGE: CJTF 02/11/93 FM CJTF-FA DET ONE BANGKOK TH APPRV: CJTF:GEB TO RUHQHQE / CDR JTF-FA HONOLULU DRFTD: CJTF:GEB INFO RUMTFS / AMEMBASSY VIENTIANE//CJTF-FA DET THREE// : NONE RUEHPF / USMISSION PHNOM PENH//CJTFFA DET FOUR// DISTR: CJTF RUEKJCS / JOINT STAFF WASHDC//OCJCS-PW-MIA/J5// ORGIN: OCR RUEKJCS / SECDEF WASHDC//OASD-ISA/PW-MIA// RUHQHQB / USCINCPAC HONOLULU HI//J3// RUEKJCS / USCINCPAC LO WASHDC// RUEKJCS / DIA WASHDC//POW-MIA// RUEAIIA / CIA WASHDC//DEA/SEA/IB/DDO/ICOG// RUHVAAA / CDRUSACILIHI HICKAM AFB HI// RUEADWW / NSC WASHDC RUEHC / SECSTATE WASHDC//CA/OCS/CCS/EAP// BT UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 BANGKOK TH 06001 UNCLASSIFIED 0052 FEB 93 DIA PASS TO DDO POW-MIA CENTRAL DOCUMENTATION OFFICE SUBJ: SRV ORAL HISTORY INTERVIEW WITH FORMER ENEMY PROSELYTING CADRE NGUYEN VAN HUNG REF:DET 1, JTFFA MSG 200341Z JAN 93 1. REF WAS THE SUMMARY REPORT OF ACTIVITIES CONDUCTED IN VIETNAM BY JTFFA SPECIAL ASSISTANT, MR G.E. BELL, DURING THE PERIOD 6 TO 18 JAN 93. PARA 2F OF REF REFERS TO FORMER ENEMY PROSELYTING CADRE NGUYEN VAN HUNG WHO WAS INTERVIEWED IN DANANG CITY ON 14 JAN 93. THE INTERVIEW WAS MONITORED BY ASSIGED COUNTERPART AND MINISTRY OF NATIONAL DEFENSE (MND) REP, LTC PHAM TEO, AND MINISTRY OF THE INTERIOR (MOI) REP, ME HA MINH THAN. THE FOLLOWING REPORT PROVIDES THE RESULTS OF THE INTERVIEW. 2. SOURCE, A NATIVE OF DANANG, STUDIED ENGLISH AT THE VIETNAMESE- AMERICAN ASSOCIATION: (HCI VIET MY) IN HOI AN UNTIL 1964 WHEN HE DECIDED TO JOIN THE REVOLUTION. SOURCE SAID HIS ENGKISH TEACHER IN HOI AN WAS "MR BAKER". SOURCE SAID HE HAD A SECOND ENGLISH TEACHER WHOSE NAME HE COULD NOT RECALL, BUT BELIVES THE PERSON MIGHT BE A "MR TOM MALIA" HE HAS HEARD ABOUT AROUND DANANG. (I.E. TOM MALIA WHO IS CURRENTLY WORKING FOR THE ODERLY DEPARTURE PROGRAM). SOURCE SAID THAT AFTER HE JOINED THE REVOLUTION IN 1964, HE WAS ASSIGNED TO THE MILITARY-ENEMY PROSELYTING OFFICE (MEPO) OF QUANG DA SPECIAL ZONE. AAFTER A FEW MONTHS, SOURCE WAS ASSIGNED TO THE MEPO OF MILITARY REGION (MR) 5. AT THAT TIME THE MRS CAMP WAS LOCATED NEAR THE BOARDER OF QUANG NAM (I.E. GVN QUANG TIN) PROVINCE QUANG NGAI PROVINCE. 1/2 DS UNCLASSIFIED CJTF-FADETONEBA 006001/01 3. SOURCE SAID HE WAS RECENTLY INTERVIEWED BY JTFFA PERSONNEL IN DANANG. CONCERING THE MR5 CAMP AND HAD NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD. SOURCE SAID HE DID NOT KNOW THE SPECIFIC LOCATION OF ANY GIVES CONTAINING US REMAINS. SOURCE SAID HE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANY US PERSONNEL REMAINING IN VIETNAM. SOURCE SAID HE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE CONCERING US PERSONNEL WHO WERE MOVED TO THIRD COUNTRIES AFTER BEING CAPTURED. 4. WHEN ASKED SPECIFICALLY CONCERNING CASE 1456 (SPARKS). SOURCE SAID HE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS CASE. AFTER HEARING THE CIRCUMSTANCES, SOURCE OPINED THAT IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM TO HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE REGARDING CASE 1456. DUE TO A POLICY CHANGE THAT OCCURRED SHORTLY AFTER THE 1968 "TET" GENERAL OFFENSIVE. SOURCE EXPLAINED THAT SHORTLY AFTER "TET", INSTRUCTIONS WERE ISSUED TO THE EFFECT THAT NO MORE WOUNDED US PERSONNEL WOULD BE MOVED FROM THEIR CAPTURE POINT TO BE DETAILED IN THE MRS CAMP. SOURCE SAID THESE INSTRUCTIONS WERE ISSUED DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS ABSOLUTFLY NO MEDICAL CARE AVAILABLE AT THE CAMP, WHICH HAD RESULTED IN THE DEATHS OF SEVERAL AMERICANS DURING EARLY 1968. 5. SOURCE DID VAGUELY RECALL ONE OCCASSION SOMETIME DURING 1969 WHEN HE WAS TASKED TO PROVIDE FOR A WOUNDED AMERICAN POW. SOURCESAID HE TRAVELLED ON FOOT TO A POW TRANSFER POINT WHICH WAS LOCATED ABOUT THREE TO FOUR HOURS WALKING DISTANCE FROM THE MRS CAMP. SOURCE SAID HE INTERPRETED FOR PERSONNEL OF THE CAPTURING UNIT (DESIGNATION NOT RECALLED BUT POSSIBLY THE PAVN 2ND DIV) FOR ONE BRIEF PERIOD. SOURCE CLAIMED TO BE UNABLE TO PROVIDE A PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION OF THE AMERICAN, AND COULD ONLY RECALL THAT THE AMERICAN WAS A MALE CAUCASIN. SOURCE RECALLED THE MAN WAS BADLY WOUNDED, BUT COULD NOT RECALL THE NATURE OF HIS WOUNDS. SOURCE ALSO COULD NOT RECALL NAME OF THE PERSON WHO GUIDED HIM TO THE TRANSFER POINT, OR THE IDENTIES OF ANY OF THE PERSONNEL WHO WERE PRESENT AT THE TRANSFER POINT, INCLUDING GUARDS. AFTER A BRIEF PERIOD OF INTERPRETING FOR THE WOUNDED AMERICAN, SOURCE RETURNED TO THE MRS CAMP AND DID SEE OR HEAR ABOUT THE AMERICAN AGAIN. SOURCE CLAIMED HE WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AND COULD NOT EVEN SPECULATE AS TO WHERE THE AMERICAN WAS TAKEN. SOURCE SAID HE COULD NOT RECALL ANY MEDICAL FACILITIES IN THE AREA. 6. WHEN ASKED CONCERNING ANY OTHER WARTIME CADRE WHO MIGHT BE CAPABLE OF PROVIDING INFORMATION REGARDING US PERSONNEL SOURCE PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING: A. MR PHAN TAN TRINE, A NATIVE OF QUANG NAM-DANANG, WAS THE CHIEF OF THE MRS MILITARY PROSELYTING ELEMENT OF THE MEPO. MR TRINE IS CURRENTLY ASSIGNED AS THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN OF THE DAC LAC PROVINCE PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE AND RESIDES IN BAN ME THUAT CITY. B. MR THAN DANG, A NATIVE OF QUANG NAM-DANG, WAS THE COMMANDER OF THE MRS CAMP. SOURCE IS NOT SURE CONCERNING THE CURRENT WHEREABOUTS OR EMPLOYMENT STATUS OF MR DANGBUT BELIVES HE MAY BE RETIRED AND RESIDING IN DANANG. C. MR MAI PHUONG, A NATIVE OF QUANG NGAI PROVINCE, WAS THE DEPUTY COMMANDER OF THE MRS CAMP. SOURCE BELIVES MR DANG IS NOW RETIRED AND RESIDING IN QUANG NGAI TOWN. 7. COMMENT: A. SOURCE WAS PROFESSIONALLY EVASIVE AND MAINTAINED HIS COMPOSURE THROUGHOUT THE INTERVIEW, BUT AT TIMES DID SEEN EMBARRASED TO STATE HIS LACK OF KNOWLEDGE CONCERNING SUBJECTS HE COULD REASONABLY BE EXPECTED TO HAVE A GOOD GRASP OF. SOURCE'S ATTITUDE GAVE THE IMPRESSION HE EXPECTS TO BE INTERVIEWED AGAIN. AS INDICATED IN PREVIOUS INTERVIEWS, SOURCE WAS FAMILIAR WITH PERSONNEL IN THE MRS CAMP ASSOCIATED WITH ALREADY RESOLVED CASES. B. IN ADDITION TO NOT BEING WILLING TO PROVIDE DETAILED INFORMATION CONCERNING THE WARTIME APPARTUS IN MRS, SOURCE WAS ALSO NOT WILLING TO DISCUSS HIS POST WAR TRAVELS IN THE FORMER SOVIET UNION. SOURCE WOULD ONLY STATE THAT HE SPENT TWO YEARS IN THE FORMER SOVIET UNION STUDYING PHILOSOPHY. SOURCE IS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED AS AN ENGLISH LANGUAGE INSTRUTOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF DANANG. ALTHOUGH DIFFICULT TO SETERMINE WITH ONLY THIS LIMITED CONTACT WITH SOURCE, HE DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE A GOOD COMMAND OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. BT #6001 NNNN 2/2 UNCLASSIFIED CJTF-FADEONBA 006001/02