[1070-71.CM 02/28/96] [NETWORK NOTE: This document was scanned and retyped to make it an ASCII file. The Block format of a USG document was altered to just "text") DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE REPORT Note: This Document contains information affecting the national defense of the United States within the meaning of the espionage laws. Title 18, U.S.C., Sec 793 and 794. The transmission or revelatin of its contents in any manner to an unauthorized person is prohibited by law. CONFIDENTIAL This report contains unprocessed information. Plans and/or policies should not be evolved or modified solely on the basis of this report. 1. COUNTRY: VN, HANOI City 8. REPORT NUMBER: 6 029 1070 71 2. SUBJECT: (U) US PW Sighting in HANOI 9. DATE OF REPORT: 18 Nov 71 10.NO. OF PAGES: 5 3. ISC NUMBER: 723.600 11.REFERENCES: DIRM: 6G1, 6G3 SICR: D-7CX-49018, D-6C2-26423 BRIGHT LIGHT 4. DATE OF INFORMATION: Late 1969; Apr 70 12. ORIGINATOR: US Element, CMIC, USMACV 5. PLACE AND DATE OF ACQ: FANK, PHNOM PENH, CB 9 Nov 71 13. PREPARED BY: CLAUDE R. BRODEUR SP6, USA 6. EVALUATION: SOURCE F INFORMATION 6 7. SOURCE: Returnee Interrogation 14. APPROVING AUTHORITY: (SIGNED LaVern A. Gustafson, Maj. for) PAUL G. SPERO LTC, USA Dir, US Elm, CMIC 15. SUMMARY (C) This report is the result of an interrogation arranged by DAO, PHNOM PENH, and conducted at FANK Hqs by a MACV Go Team composed of CMIC and Det 6, 1021st USAF Fld Acty Sq personnel. This report is based on raw and unevaluated information. On 9 Nov 71, HC IENG LIM, CMIC C-3759-71, was interrogated by SP6 Claude R. Brodeur with the assistance of FANK interpreter WO1 ALY-SA. This report contains information concerning the sighting of one US PW displayed and exploited at the PHO BA DINH Market Place, HANOI City, NVN, in late 1969. Of significant importance in this report is information concerning the viewing of this PW in Apr 70, in a motion picture taken at the same location where Source hadpreviously seen him. THIS IS A BRIGHT LIGHT REPORT. MACV FOR JPRC. 1. (C) Background Information: a. Name: IENG LIM, aka IENG LON, CMIC C-3759-71 b. Rank: CPT c. Position and Unit of Assignment: Member; Military Staff, SR-590, MR-304 d. DPOB: Feb 38; DANG TONG Village, KOMPONG TRACH District, KOMPOT Province, CAMBODIA 16. DISTRIBUTION BY ORIGINATOR: DIA 1 cy DIRNSA 1 cy SAC 1 cy CINPAC 1 cy CINPAC AF 2 cys CINCUSARPAC 2 cys COMUSMACTHAI 1 cy MACJ212-2 2 cys MACJ213-1 1 cy MACJ23 1 cy MACJ231 10 cys 17. DOWNGRADING DATA: GROUP 3 DOWNGRADED AT 12 YEAR INTERVALS NOT AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED THIS DOCUMENT IS RELEASEABLE TO REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM AND FREE WORLD MILITARY ASSISTANCE FORCES 18: ATTACHMENT DATA: None DECLASSIFIED DAAG-AMR-D# 850844 date: 11 Sep 85 Page 2 of 5 e. Parents' Names: Father, OEUNG IENG, deceased; Mother, MONH PREUM, deceased f. Circumstances of Return. On 7 Sep 71, Source rallied to an unidentified FANK force at KHDEY KHNONG Village, KOMPONG SVAAY District, KOMPONG THOM Province, CAMBODIA, because he noticed increasing NVA Communist influence in KHMER ROUGE organizations, and he could not tolerate the occupation of CAMBODIA by any foreign country. At the time he rallied, Source had in his possession one automatic pistol, one submachinegun, one antipersonnel mine, and various political documents (NFI). g. Significant Activities: (1) DOB to 1954. Source lived at his POB where he attended school until 1949. From 1950 to 1952, Source worked as a buffalo tender at RON RINH Village, KOMPONG TRACH District, KAMPOT Province, CAMBODIA. In 1953, Source joined the VIET MINH at KCHEAY Village, KOMPONG TRACH District, KAMPOT Province, CAMBODIA, and remained with them until 1954. (2) 1954 to DOR. During late 1955, Source departed CAMBODIA with the VIET MINH and arrived in NVN on an undetermined date. In 1956, he was discharged from the NVA, and attended a course in the Vietnamese language at the MHAN KY THUAT Technical School, HAIPHONG Province, NVN. In 1960, Source was recalled into the NVA, and sent to attend a course at an officer academy in SON TAY District, HA BAC Province, NVN. After completing this course, he was promoted to the rank of lieutenant, and reassigned to QUANG BINH Province, NVN, to train aspirants at an undetermined basic training camp. From Mar 67 t Mar 70, Source was a student at the VINH PHU Province Military Academy, VINH PHU Province, NVN. After completing this course, he was promoted to the rank of captain, and given a leave of absence in VINH PHY Province, NVN. During Apr 70, Source was ordered to resign his commission and to be repatriated to CAMBODIA. He traveled through LAOS with a group of 40 personnel, arriving in CAMBODIA on 29 Sep 70. The purpose of his repatriation was so that he could fight with the KHMER ROUGE. Upon his arrival in CAMBODIA, Source was assigned to MR-304. He remained with this KHMER ROUGE infrastructure until he rallied on 7 Sep 71. f. Additional References: CMIC PW/Rallier Exploitation Guide; MACV/JPRC Photographs of Missing and Captured Personnel in SEA, dated 12 Sep 71; Det 6, 1021st USAF Fld Acty Sqdr IR 1 516 0543 71 2. (C) US PW Sighting in LAOS. The following report is based on SICR D-7CX-49018 (Prisoner of War Intelligence), and SICR D-6C2-26423 (POW Information, VN): a. Circumstances of Sighting. In late 1969, while Source was on a leave of absence from the VINH PHU Province Military Academy, he was at the PHO BA DINH Market, HANOI City, NVN, where he observed a US PW being exploited for a propaganda film by personnel of an unknown NVA file unit. In Apr 70, when Source graduated from the VINH PHY Province Military Academy, he was provided the opportunity to see the completed film, which included the same US PW he had previously seen at the PHO BA DINH Market Place. Page 3 of 5 b. Capture Data. Source did not observe the actual capture of this US PW, but added that at the time of the sighting at the PHO BA DINH Market, and in the completed film, the US PW was wearing a placard on his chest which stated the date and place of his capture. Source could not remember the date that was written on the placard. The place of capture was designated as being in THANH HOA Province, NVN (NFI). c. Identification of the US PW: (1) Name: Unknown (2) Rank and Branch of Service: Unknown (3) Nationality: US (4) Type Aircraft: Unknown (Interrogator's Note: Source did believe that the US PW was a pilot downed over THANH HOA Province, NVN, since he was referred to as a pilot in the motion picture). (5) Physical Description: (a) Height: Two meters (b) Weight: 100 kilograms (c) Color of Hair and Eyes: Black; brown (d) Race: Source could not determine whether the US PW was Caucasian or Negro, and stated that the US PW appeared to be of Latin-American origin. (Interrogator's Note: Source believed that the US PW looked like Latin-Americans he had previously seen in his high-school history books.) (e) Complexion: Light (f) Hair: Short (g) Nose: Short, straight (h) Scars: None observed (i) Tattoos: None observed (j) Birthmarks: None observed (k) Build: Heavy (l) Age: Approximately 30 (m) Glasses Worn: None (n) Rings/Watches: None (Interrogator's Note: Source stated that rings and watches were normally confiscated from all prisoners prior to their internment and exploitation. For information provided by the Source concerning the treatment of US PW in NVN, see Det 6, 1021st Page 4 of 5 USAF Fld Acty Sq. IR 1 516 0543 71). The following information is provided as a guide to ascertaining Source's ability at estimating the height, weight, and age of US personnel; the subject for the comparison is the interrogator: ESTIMATED ACTUAL Height: 1.7 meters 1.72 meters Weight: 80 kilograms 91 kilograms Age: 30 29.75 d. Clothing Worn by the PW at the Time of Sighting. The US PW was wearing an olive-grey, two-piece uniform with the shirt tucked into the trousers. A brown leather belt was also worn on the trousers. No hat or socks were worn by the PW. He had footgear consisting of rubber, shower-type sandals. No insignia or unit/branch identification markings were visible to Source; Source believed that these markings were covered by the placard which was hung over the US PW's chest (sic). e. Physical Condition of the PW. Source noted no injuries or wounds on the US PW at the time of sighting. The US PW appeared to be in a very good state of health. Source believed that the only reason this US PW was not suffering from some type of illness was because of the necessity for keeping him in a good state of health for proper propaganda exploitation by the NVN government. f. Disposition of the US PW. During exploitation of the US PW at the PHO BA DINH Market Place, he had his hands tied behind his back. At that time, the PW was being guarded by approximately 20 NVA soldiers, who had the responsibility of protecting him from being stoned by local civilians. Source believed that the PW would be taken to the BA VY Mountain PW Camp, SON TAY Province, NVN, after his exploitation at the market place. (Interrogator's Note: Source has never been to the BA VY Mountain PW Camp. This camp was mentioned by SONG TUNG (SOONGL, TUWNG), Secretary of the Foreign Affairs Committee, NVN, during a lecture at the VINH PHY Province Military Academy after the showing of the film that included US PW he saw in HANOI City, NVN). g. Motion Picture Exploitation of US PW. The title of the motion picture in which Source saw the previously identified US PW was AO NGU. This title translates as Sleeping Dress. Source could not provide any correlation concerning the symbolism of this motion picture title and its relativity to the US PW subject matter. The film depicted US aircraft (exact type unknown) being shot down over NVN, and the interview of several US PW (identification unknown) by interrogators and interpreters. The motion picture did not reveal any of the living conditions in VNV PW camps. h. Interrogations of US PW Depicted in the Motion Picture. At no time during the motion picture were the interrogation of interpreting personnel depicted. The US PW were shown answering questions. Source Page 5 of 5 could only recall two questions that were asked of the PW. He cold not remember any of the answers given. The following are the two questions recalled by the Source: Question 1: Colonel, your country flies spaceships to the moon, Why, then, do you bother to fly to HANOI? Question 2: During your internment and detention in the Democratic Republic of Vietna, Colonel, do you wiish to correspond with your family at any time? I. Lecture Following the Showing of the Motion Picture. During the lecture that folowed the showing of the motion picture, the guest speaker, Mister SONG TUNG, discussed the hatred that the North Vietnamese must have for Americans. Although SONG TUNG was a man given to exaggeration, he sincerely believed that he was telling the truth concerning the maltreatment of US PW he had stated in his lecture. (For information concerning the statements made by SONG TUNG in this lecture, see Det 6, 1021st USAF Fld Acty Sq IR 1 516 0453 71). J. Photo Identification of the US PW Sighted. Source was shown the MACV JPRC PW Photo Identification Album, and stated that the US PW he saw in HANOI City, NVN, looked similar to CPT CHARLES RICHARD CONNOR, US Marine Corps. (C) COMMENTS: Source was cooperative and appeared sincere throughout the interrogation. Control quesitons revealed no attempt at deception. Source is presently working with the FANK forces in the Public Information Office under the supervision of COL AM RONG, Director of Public Information. This report partially satisfies the requirements of SICR D-7CX-49018 and SICR D-6C2-26423. [Distributed through the P.O.W. Network]