[1002-71.CM 02/29/96] [NETWORK NOTE: This document was scanned and retyped to make it an ASCII file. The Block format of a USG document was altered to just "text") REPRODUCED AT THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES DECLASSIFIED PER EXECUTIVE ORDER 12356, SECTION 3.3, NND PROJECT NUMBER NN8937 597, BY RB1VSW, DATE 1/23/96 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE REPORT Note: This Document contains information affecting the national defense of the United States within the meaning of the espionage laws. Title 18, U.S.C., Sec 793 and 794. The transmission or revelation of its contents in any manner to an unauthorized person is prohibited by law. CONFIDENTIAL This report contains unprocessed information. Plans and/or policies should not be evolved or modified solely on the basis of this report. 1. COUNTRY: VN, THANH HOA Province 8. REPORT NUMBER: 6 029 1002 71 2. SUBJECT: (U) Two US PW Sighted in 9. DATE OF REPORT: 18 Oct 71 THANH HOA Province, NVN (handwritten-W32064) 10. NO. OF PAGES: 6 3. ISC NUMBER: 723.600 11. REFERENCES: DIRM: 6G1, 6G3 SICR: D-7CX-49018,D-6C2-26423 BRIGHT LIGHT 4. DATE OF INFORMATION: Oct 67 12. ORIGINATOR: US Element, CMIC, USMACV 5. PLACE AND DATE OF ACQ: CMIC, SAIGON, VS 13 Oct 71 13. PREPARED BY: NELS M. SATHER SP5, USA 6. EVALUATION: SOURCE F INFORMATION 6 7. SOURCE: HC Interrogation 14. APPROVING AUTHORITY: (SIGNED) PAUL G. SPERO LTC, USA Dir, US Elm, CMIC 15. SUMMARY (C) This report contains information on two US PW sighted in THANH HOA Province, NVN to include circumstances of sighting, physical description, clothing worn by PW, policy concerning treatment of US PW, and biographical correlation where a positive identification was made. THIS IS A BRIGHT LIGHT REPORT. MACV FOR JPRC. 1. (C) Background Information: a. Name: NGUYEN MINH HUY (NGUYEENX, MINH HUY), aka CHUNG THANH (CHUNG, THANH), CMIC C-3753-71 b. Rank: 2 LT c. Position and Unit of Assignment: Executive Officer; K-21 Recon Co, 203d NVA Regt d. DPOB: Jan 50; HANOI City, NVN 16. DISTRIBUTION BY ORIGINATOR: DIA 1 cy DIRNSA 1 cy SAC 1 cy CINPAC 1 cy CINPAC AF 2 cys CINCUSARPAC 2 cys COMUSMACTHAI 1 cy MACJ212-2 2 cys MACJ213-1 1 cy MACJ23 1 cy MACJ231 10 cys 17. DOWNGRADING DATA: GROUP 3 DOWNGRADED AT 12 YEAR INTERVALS NOT AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED THIS DOCUMENT IS RELEASEABLE TO REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM AND FREE WORLD MILITARY ASSISTANCE FORCES 18: ATTACHMENT DATA: None Page 2 of 6 e. Parents' Names: father, NGUYEN MINH QUYEN (NGUYEENX, MINH QUEENL), living; Mother, NGUYEN THU U (NGUYEENX, TINV UW), living f. Circumstances of return: Source rallied to an unidentified FANK unit located in KOMPONG PHLOUK Hamlet (vic UV8960), SIEM REAP Province, CAMBODIA, on 28 Aug 71. Disciplinary problems which caused him to be ousted from the LAO DONG Party in Jul 71 were a reason for his rallying (NFI) g. Significant Activities: (1) DOB to Jan 70. Source attended an unidentified neighborhood school in HANOI City from 1965 through 1966. In Feb 67, source joined the NVA and was assigned to the 1st Sapper-Reconnaissance Co, 36th Regt, located in HA TAY Province, NVN. His basic military and political training with this unit lasted one year and included sapper and reconnaissance techniques. In early 1968, the 1st Sapper-Reconnaissance Co moved to VINH PHUC Province where the members of the unit received additional military and political training which lasted for one year. The 36th Regt remained in HA TAY Province during this time. In early 1969, the 1st Sapper Reconnaissance Co moved to HANOI City where its members received tactical training in city warfare for a period of one year. (2) Jan 70 to DOR. In early Jan 70, Source was reassigned to the 5th Inf Bn, 36th Regt, and began infiltration. The infiltration process lasted one year (sic); the battalion arrived in SIEM REAP City, SIEN REAP Province, CAMBODIA, in early 1971. Upon arrival at this destination, the 5th Bn was subordinated to the newly formed 203rd Regt. At the same time, the 5th Bn received a new numerical designation and became known as the 32d Bn. Source was reassigned to the K-21 Reconnaissance Co, which was directly subordinate to the 203rd Regt. At the time source rallied, the K-21 Reconnaissance Co was located near the regimental headquarters. COMMENT: Source was available for interrogation at CMIC for only two days. Therefore, emphasis was placed on obtaining the intelligence information Source possessed concerning the two US PW. Significant activities were taken from a preliminary report on HUY, which was accomplished in PHNOM PENH, CAMBODIA. When Source sighted the two US PW he was working in a rice field. However, during this same period of time he was supposedly assigned to the 1st Sapper Reconnaissance Co, 36th Regt, located in HA TAY Province, NVN. Since HUY is no longer available at CMIC for interrogation it is not possible to clarity this ambiguity. h. Additional References: CMIC PW/Rallier Exploitation Guide; MACV IDHS PW/MIA/CPT Biographic File, dtd 16 Jul 71; MACV/JPRC Photographs of Missing and Captured personnel in SEA, dtd 12 Sep 71; Map: VIETNAM, AMS Series L7014, Sheet 6148, Edition 1, dtd 1965, Scale 1:50,000 Page 3 of 6 2. Two US PW Sighted in THANH HOA Province, NVN. This report is based on SICR D-7CX-49018 (Prisoner of War Intelligence) and SICR D-6C2-26423 (POW Information, NVN. a. Circumstances of Sighting. On an undetermined day In Oct 67, source was working in a rice paddy when he observed two parachutes eject form two disabled jets (type unknown) at 1000 hours. The two pilots landed in a rice paddy approximately two kilometers northeast of HOANG QUYNH Village, HOANG HOA District, THANH HOA Province, NVN. (Interrogator's Note: Source was unable to pinpoint the exact location of the landing or HOANG QUYNH Village, although he did point out the general area. See overlay, page 6 of this report.) The two American pilots were captured by an undetermined number of NVA troops (unit unknown). Source arrived at the site of capture shortly after the capture. The PW were made to take off their outer clothing. The PW were then marched to the office of the village chief of HOANG QUYNH Village where they were guarded by five soldiers (unit unknown) armed with K-54 pistols and AK-47s. Source spent the entire day with the US PW until they were evacuated at 1700 hours. Other than requests for food, no communication between the US PW and the Vietnamese was possible due to the language barrier. The PW were neither physically restrained nor mistreated. b. Description of PW: (1) Identification of PW No 1: (a) Name: Unknown (b) Rank and Branch of Service: Unknown (c) Nationality: American (d) Physical Description: 1 Height: 1.73m 2 Weight: 78kg 3 color of Hair and Eyes: Blonde hair streaked with white 4 Race: Caucasian 5 Complexion: Light complexion 6 Hair length: Very short 7 Mustache and/or beard: None observed 8 Nose: Hooked 9 Tattoos, Scars, and Birthmarks: None observed 10 Build: Medium Page 4 of 6 11 Age: Unknown 12 Glasses Worn: None observed 13 Rings/Watches: Wedding band, gold: watch, gold, yellow face (2) Identification of PW No 2: (a) Name: Unknown (b) Rank and Branch of Service: Unknown (c) Nationality: American (d) Physical Description: 1 Height: 1.64m 2 Weight: 96kg 3 color of Hair and Eyes: Blonde hair; blue eyes 4 Race: Caucasian 5 Complexion: Ruddy complexion 6 Hair length: Short 7 Mustache and/or beard: None observed 8 Nose: High and straight 9 Tattoos, Scars, and Birthmarks: None observed 10 Build: Heavy 11 Age: Unknown 12 Glasses Worn: None observed 13 Rings/Watches: None observed (3) Clothing Worn by PW. Both US PW wore white underclothing while observed by Source. (4) Physical Condition. Both US PW appeared to be in good physical condition. d. Evacuation Procedures. At 1700 hours, two jeeps (origin unknown) arrived at the HOANG QUYNH Village Chief's office to pick up the two PW. The two jeeps left in the direction of HANOI. Page 5 of 6 d. VC/NVA Policy Concerning the Treatment and Disposition of US PW. source stated that the NVN government instructed the people not to mistreat US PW. e. Biographical Correlation. Correlation of the data provided by Source with the MACV IDHS PW/MIA/CPT Biographic file, dtd 16 Jul 71, and the MACV/JPRC Photographs of Missing and Captured Personnel in SEA, dtd 12 Sep 71, provided tentative identification of the two US PW as CPT William Allan Lillund and MAJ Morris Larosco McDaniel. JPRC was contacted and, with additional photographs provided by a JPRC representative, positive identification was made by HUY. The JPRC representative indicated he would provide this information to the USAF along with a recommendation that the status of these two US officers be officially changed from MIA to captured. (U) COMMENTS: Source was cooperative and answered all questions willingly. Control questions revealed no attempt at deception on the part of the Source. This report partially satisfies the requirements of SICR D-7CS-49018 and D-6C2-26423. Page 6 of 6 [NETWORK NOTE: a copy of the 8" x 6.5" SKETCH OF THE LOCATION OF CAPTURE is available - call or write using the file number 1002-71 page 6 ] Overlay of an area (shaded) suspected of being the location of capture of two US pilots, as provided by Returnee, NGUYEN MINH HUY, CMIC C-3753-71. (DOI: Oct 67) Map: VIETNAM AMS Series L7014, Sheet 6148 I, Edition 1, dtd 1965, Scale, 1:50,000 [Distributed through the P.O.W Network]