SUBER, RANDOLPH BOTHWELL

Name: Randolph Bothwell Suber
Rank/Branch: E5/US Army Special Forces
Unit: CCN - MACV-SOG, 5th Special Forces Group
Date of Birth: 22 May 1947
Home City of Record: Ballwin MO
Date of Loss: 13 November 1969
Country of Loss: Laos
Loss Coordinates: 155813N 1070227E (YC184666)
Status (in 1973): Missing In Action
Category: 2
Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: Ground
Refno: 1522

Source: Compiled from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S.
Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published
sources, interviews. Updated by the P.O.W. NETWORK in 2020.

Other Personnel in Incident: Ronald E. Ray (missing)

REMARKS:

SYNOPSIS: SSgt. Ronald E. Ray was a platoon leader and Sgt. Randolph B.
Suber a riflemen and a team member of a six-man reconnaissance team on a
mission in Laos. Both were assigned to Command and Control North, MACV-SOG
(Military Assistance Command, Vietnam Studies and Observation Group).
MACV-SOG was a joint service high command unconventional warfare task force
engaged in highly classified operations throughout Southeast Asia. The 5th
Special Forces channeled personnel into MACV-SOG (although it was not a
Special Forces group) through Special Operations Augmentation (SOA), which
provided their "cover' while under secret orders to MACV-SOG. The teams
performed deep penetration missions of strategic reconnaissance and
interdiction which were called, depending on the time frame, "Shining Brass"
or "Prairie Fire" missions.

On November 13, 1969, Ray and Suber and their team were on a reconnaissance
mission about 15 miles inside Laos in Saravane Province when they were
attacked by a numerically superior enemy force at 1600 hours.

In the intial fire, 3 indigenous were killed, and Ray sustained chest and
arm wounds and fell to the ground, groaned and became silent. One indigenous
team member, Nguyen Van Bon, checked Ray and shook him, but obtained no
response. Ray's weapon was smashed.

Bon stated that he last saw Suber trying to gain contact on his URC-10
emergency radio, then pick up his weapon and aim at four approaching hostile
soldiers, but that the rifle did not fire becasue it became jammed, and that
Suber was hit immediately afterwards and fell to the ground. Bon called to
him, but he did not move or answer. Their position was overrun by enemy
forces and Bon evaded capture and was ultimately rescued.

Even though the report given by the indigenous may lead one to assume Ray
and Suber are dead, the Army classified them as Missing In Action. There are
a number of reasons to support this determination, including mistrust of
indigenous reports. If Ray and Suber had merely been incapacitated, many
Army personnel would say that the indigenous would look to his own safety
first, disregarding the fate of the wounded Americans. As a general trend,
the Army did not accept indigenous reports that were in conflict with or
unsubstantiated by other information. Another factor, of course, could be
that the Army knew that they were not dead. It is not uncommon for details
of loss incidents in Laos to be obscure. It is even more common for details
of MACV-SOG operations to be sketchy.

For every insertion like Ray and Suber's that were detected and stopped,
dozens of other commando teams safely slipped past NVA lines to strike a
wide range of targets and collect vital information. The number of MACV-SOG
missions conducted with Special Forces reconnaissance teams into Laos and
Cambodia was 452 in 1969. It was the most sustained American campaign of
raiding, sabotage and intelligence-gathering waged on foreign soil in U.S.
military history. MACV-SOG's teams earned a global reputation as one of the
most combat effective deep-penetration forces ever raised.

The missions Ray and Suber and others were assigned were exceedingly
dangerous and of strategic importance. The men who were put into such
situations knew the chances of their recovery if captured was slim to none.
They quite naturally assumed that their freedom would come by the end of the
war. For 591 Americans, freedom did come at the end of the war. For another
2500, however, freedom has never come. Ray was on his third tour of duty in
Vietnam.

Since the war ended, nearly 10,000 reports relating to missing Americans in
Southeast Asia have been received by the U.S., convincing many authorities
that hundreds remain alive in captivity. Ray and Suber could be among them.
If so, what must they think of us?

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02/2020

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SFC RANDOLPH BOTHWELL SUBER

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On the afternoon of November 13, 1969, a six-man reconnaissance team comprising two Americans and four local troops were on a mission in Laos when they were attacked by a numerically superior enemy force. Three of the four local team members were killed in the initial contact, and the two Americans were both hit by enemy gunfire and severely wounded. The remaining local team member survived the incident, and reported that the area was subsequently overrun by the enemy and that the Americans were both still lying on the ground wounded when he left the area. Beeper signals were received in the days following the incident, but bad weather and heavy enemy presence in the area prevented search and rescue teams from recovering the two American troops. Neither was seen again and further attempts to locate them were unsuccessful. 

Sergeant Randolph Bothwell Suber entered the U.S. Army from Missouri and served in Command and Control North, 5th Special Forces Group. He was one of the Americans on this patrol, and the survivor reported that SGT Suber fell to the ground after being hit by enemy small arms fire. Attempts to locate SGT Suber or his remains following the incident have been unsuccessful. He was promoted to Sergeant First Class after his disappearance. Today, Sergeant First Class Suber is memorialized on the Courts of the Missing at the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific. 

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