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V V A - Vietnam Veterans of America
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 'Wannabe Warriors' is now available on the vva.org Web site.  To access it, go to www.vva.org.  Click on 'Publications.'  Then, under 'Features,' click on 'A Legend in Their Own Minds.' 03/2003

 

V V A - Vietnam Veterans of America

MercuryNews.com | 05/14/2005 | Veteran official cited in ...
... HE DROPS HIS BID FOR PRESIDENCY OF VIETNAM VETS; VA INVESTIGATING By Alison
Young Knight Ridder. WASHINGTON - A top official at Vietnam Veterans of ...
www.mercurynews.com/mld/ mercurynews/news/nation/11646855.htm

HE DROPS HIS BID FOR PRESIDENCY OF VIETNAM VETS; VA INVESTIGATING

By Alison Young
Knight Ridder
 

WASHINGTON - A top official at Vietnam Veterans of America abruptly ended his bid to become the group's president this week after Knight Ridder obtained the results of an internal probe that concluded he had ``repeatedly and routinely submitted misleading and fraudulent

paperwork'' to help vets obtain federal benefits.
 
 Officials at the pre-eminent advocacy group for the nation's 8 million Vietnam-era veterans documented the problem in 2001, but never shared their findings with the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. Instead, they allowed Jim Grissom to quietly resign as a claims handler, yet hold increasingly greater leadership positions within the organization. The group did not know that he continued to handle claims.
 
The VA now is investigating the case, which is a striking example of the agency's lax oversight of thousands of individuals who are
accredited to assist veterans through the complex process of applying for disability compensation and other VA benefits.
 
The VA pays more than $20 billion in disability claims every year, many of them based on the work of claims handlers such as Grissom. But
a Knight Ridder investigation found that the handlers often are not adequately trained and screened for integrity and ability.
 
Although he is not a medical professional, Grissom signed psychiatric evaluation forms that helped veterans get VA medical treatment for
post-traumatic stress syndrome.
 
Grissom, who as national secretary holds the No. 3 position at the Vietnam Veterans of America, said he never intended to mislead the VA
or anyone else when he filled out and signed the forms. He said he thought the issue was behind him. ``We came to an agreement,'' said
Grissom, who lives in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. ``I resigned my accreditation and that was it.''
 
As the VA's inspector general and Office of General Counsel open investigations into Grissom's conduct, nine of the nation's best-known
veterans charities began receiving letters from the VA this week seeking information about how the groups educate, test and supervise
VA-accredited claims helpers, called service officers. The letters, which went to groups such as Disabled American Veterans, Amvets, the
American Legion and the Marine Corps League, also asked whether the groups think current regulations are adequate.
 
About two-thirds of veterans who apply for disability compensation from the VA get help from service officers, who may work for
non-profit veterans groups or county or state veterans departments.
 
Federal regulations require the VA to accredit service officers to ensure that veterans receive ``responsible, qualified representation
in the preparation, presentation and prosecution of claims.'' But Knight Ridder found that the VA largely has ceded responsibility for
making that determination to the veterans groups. The VA just rubber-stamps as ``accredited'' the names submitted to it.

 

From: Bmeeksjr@aol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:05:09 EDT
Subject: RE: VVA Follow-up Contact With The POW Network

The following update pertains to certain individuals listed on your web site as members of Vietnam Veterans of America or Associates of Vietnam Veterans of America and the current status of said individuals in regard to information from our VVA/AVVA membership database.

Elden Colf - non-renewed AVVA member since 2/2001
Radall S. Blank - non-renewed AVVA member since 4/2001
Martin Teaford, Sr. - NO record of VVA or AVVA membership in database
Philip D. Toland - deceased VVA member 11/2000
Walter W. Erdmann - non-renewed VVA member since 11/2001
Robert D. Metzger - non-renewed VVA member since 2/2000
Juan M. Reyes - non-renewed VVA member since 6/2001
James E. Stillings - non-renewed VVA member since 4/2002
Jerry Washington - deceased VVA member since 1998
Louis Weiler - deceased VVA member since 2/2002
Archie Launey - non-renewed VVA member since 2/1998
Gary D. Klaske - non-renewed VVA member since 2/2002


We would hope that you would choose to note on your web site the fact that these individuals are ex-members. As for the other individuals noted on your web site as VVA members, action is being taken by Vietnam Veterans of America and further updates as to those individuals will be provided as they develop.

Thanks,
Bill Meeks, Jr.
VVA Membership Affairs Chair

TO: POW Network

FROM: Bill Meeks, Jr.
            VVA At Large Director
            Chair, VVA Membership Affairs Committee

Today (4/7/03) at 4:34:57 PM Central Standard Time I was given your web site address, asked to check it out and take immediate action in the best interest of all parties, especially Vietnam Veterans of America. At this late hour, you can see I've been very busy checking out your web site and have finally found time to contact your site by e-mail.

First, with a membership of over 45,000 members it's impossible to catch every wannabe, phony or whatever you would call these individuals who masquerade under false pretense, unless they are exposed as such by our members or other veterans. We are very concerned about these individuals and will address each VVA member identified ASAP.

Second, the Membership Affairs Committee knew there was a problem with the past edition of the Membership Directory, as several inquiries had been forwarded to my desk for action since my tenure as chair (less then 2 yrs) related to the directory and each inquiry had been addressed by VVA up to this point and time. In our (committee) preliminary work on the upcoming 2004 Membership Directory, the committee had recommended to the VVA BOD that no information about medals or awards would be noted without being substantiated by proof from the VVA member. There is a lead time of 14 months to publish the directory and the warning flags are up to resolve this problem.

Third, VVA's Membership Committee will review all the VVA members listed on http://pownetwork.org/ and will submit a report to the VVA BOD with recommendations for action. At that time VVA will take appropriate action based on the report and recommendations from the Membership Committee.

Finally, I would ask that you post my e-mail on your web site as proof of our (Vietnam Veterans of America) sincere efforts to resolve this matter and help clear the tarnished image these individuals have cast over our organization and the good honest veterans who are members.

Semper Fi,
Bill Meeks, Jr.
CARMELLI, JOHN D 10/2003         DECEASED JAN 6, 2008

Claims printed in TEXARKANAGAZETTE.com

"Carmeli joined the Army at age 17 in 1957 and served with the 82nd Airborne in what was then called French Indochina, before it became Vietnam.

"I went over there in 1958 with the 82nd Airborne to set up an evacuation area for the French to evacuate to," Carmeli said. "I was over there for six months before being rotated back to the states and to Fort Bragg in North Carolina, and was there until I was discharged in October 1959. I was discharged from the reserves in February 1963."

He has been reported as having worn Captain bars on his jacket in Parades.

"....there was a reason he wore captain insignia and it wasn't to promote himself."  -  NOTE CAME WITH THE NOTICE OF HIS DEATH, JAN 20, 2008

Records indicate Carmeli never left Ft Bragg. He served as a Spec 4, from Jan 1957 until Oct 1959. He has NO awards or decorations.

VVA Chapter 0278 member, Wake Village TX area. May now be in California.

Isbell, Charles "Chuck" Moberly, MO 05/2003 Verbal Claims POW, 1967-1970. Cell next to John McCain. Only successful escape from Hanoi Hilton.  Claims 1st Sgt, 173rd Airborne. 

Claims VA POW ID card.
Claims made AT V.A. Hospital.

8-10 witnesses

VVA membership information: 
Name Charles W. Isbell
Highest Rank 1SG

Branches and Dates of Active Military Service
Army 8/56-9/69
Unit Designation 173rd Airborne Brg.
Divisional Category Herd
Dates of Vietnam Service
2/67-3/68
6/68-11/68

Military Medals
Silver Star
Bronze Star Medal
Purple Heart
Combat Infantryman's Badge
Vietnam Service Medal

Chapter Affiliation 0393

Home Address Moberly, Missouri 65270

Job Title DAV

02/15/2001  These names and claims were recently published in the 2000 Membership Directory of Vietnam Veterans of America. They are NOT found in historical PUBLISHED records and were NOT the only false claims found:
  • Navy Cross - 15 claims of award - 13 false
  • Air Force Cross - 16 claims - ALL false
  • DFC - 41 claims - 34 false
  • POW Medal - 22 claims - 15 false
  • Korean Service Medal - 356 claims - 87 false
  • China Service Medal - 34 claims - 33 false
  • Philippine Presidential Unit Citation - 43 claims - 29 false
  • Army Achievement - more than 35% were false claims based on information provided

Listed as Prisoner of War:

  • Colf, Elden  Army (POW, CIB. BS, CIB...) Carleton, MI
  • Blank, Radall S.  Army 4/68-7/79 Delta 2 Bn 316 16th Inf Airborne Ranger 82nd (POW, Gold Lifesaving Medal, PH, SS...) Mayer, AZ
  • Braun, Bill H.  USMC 11/65 - 11/71 and Army 7/74-8/91 (POW, SS, BS, PH, CIB..) Brackettville, TX. Witnesses have heard statements that he and his wife receive $6000 a month, Social Security (both 100%) and VA (his 100%) also claims retired military. Jeri (wife)  says "he has friends in the VA"
  • Iden, Paul  Army 12/66 - 12/69 82nd airborne  101st 1st Airborne (POW, CIB, BS...) Melbourne, FL
  • Johnson, Randall L. USMC 7/69-4/75 (POW, PH, BS..) Bowling Green, MO CORRECTIONAL CNTR
  • Klaske, Gary D.  Oak Creek WI  - ya gotta see this one!! DECEASED 07/30/2001
  • Lindsay, Ronald  Army Ret (POW [NO Vietnam medals listed]) Lapeer, MI
  • Teaford, Martin Sr.  Army 2/72-5-74 Unit "Saigon Loas"  82nd Airborne Ranger (POW, PH....) Bassett, VI
  • Pate, William  Army 11/65-9/73 Special Operation Group (POW, BS, DFC, SS) Sand Lake, MI
  • Tarazon, James P.  USAF 1/66-5/69 12th FMS, 12 TFW (POW, BS, AM.  Division "confidential") San Gabriel, CA
  • Revis, Harley D.  Army 9/69-9/71 (POW, PH, BS, Pres Unit Cit...) Dayton, TN 
  • Toland, Philip D.  Army 4/67-5-68 AND 5/41 - 1/62 Signal Co. 3rd Sig Brigade (POW, BS, PH, Philippine Pres Unit Cit) Leominster, MA
  • Wolfe, Kenneth  Army 8/66-6/68 2nd Bat. 11th Artillery 101st Div (POW, SS...) New York, NY
  • Michael E. Sullivan, life member VVA 0082  THIS IS A MUST READ

Listed as Medal of Honor:
Caouette, Richard J., CT
Metzger, Robert D., AL
Erdman, Walter W., WI
Reyes, Juan, CA
Stillings, James, KY

Erhard, Paul E.  - Chief Service Officer, VVA
Department of Veterans Affairs, St.  Louis Regional Office

CLICK on above link for the "rest of the story".... UPDATED 2004

02/25/2003
TAP's Section of the V V A magazine The Veteran.
"Jerry Washington Capt, SOG 1970."
[No Jerry Washington listed in the Big Yellow Book of SOG.  Not listed as a member of the SOA or SFA]

"Louis Weiler severed with Army Special Forces in RVN and was a POW for 18 months"
[No one by that name listed as a member of the SFA or SOA, not listed in the Big Yellow Book of SOG.  And the biggest surprise of all no one by name is listed as a returned POW during Vietnam.]
Marvin Enoch Potter --  10/2002- claims USMC, earned the Navy Cross in Vietnam - stole citation of Medal of Honor recipient and presented it as his own. Claims 3 Silver Stars, PH, 3 tours in Nam,  70-73,  in Briar Patch - operating in a "Shadow Force", attached to 
-VMFA-333 (Trip-Trey), F-4 fighter jet squadron.  After attending jump, diving, survival,  recon schools assigned to Force
 Reconnaissance - may not show up due to him being CIA. VVA member.
Here's the exact quote from the "Locators" section of the October/November 2000 VVA VETERAN

"Trying to find an American who saved my life when I was a POW in Vietnam. I had suffered numerous bullet wounds and was in a camp with American soldiers when they were rescued by an explosion knocking out the wall. A young American transported me to the Red Cross and saved my life. Contact:

       Annabella, soul_2023@hotmail.com  "

*** Thursday, February 03, 2000 

... Here's the exact quote from the "Locators" section of the Dec 1999/Jan 2000 VVA Veteran:

"USMC, 1st Force Recon, 1969-73, SOG; Phoenix; POW: seeking fellow POWs I helped escape from Cambodia. Seeking F. Sinkovitz, D. Cerisi, D. Beaver, USMC to verify stressors for PTSD claim and Medal of Honor. Contact: Dan Jones, P.F.C.H.A., 38 Short St., Harrisburg, PA 17109; 717-657-3991."

YET ANOTHER ... Here's the exact quote from the "Locators" section of the VVA Veteran:

"MAX "Terry Whitlock, USMC, Navy, Army, six-time Medal of Honor, multiple POW. Also 1st Bn., 4th Mar., 3rd Div. Anyone, Okinawa or Vietnam, who remembers my wounds and fellow comrades in POW caps. Contact Terry Whitlock, 1156 Plain Ave., N.E., Canton, OH 44704; 330-454-0940" 

{NOTE: He ran a similar ad in the VFW magazine May '99}   When called by a REAL former POW, he stated he escaped 4 times, he worked against Nixon, his records were destroyed. He was taken North of the DMZ all 4 times, can't remember any camps, claimed USMC.}

 

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