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NORMAN KUTZ, Fayetteville, NCAPOLOGY UNDER FIRE
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| Subject: RE: Your a SCUMBAG! Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:08:14 -0400 From: "Norman Kutz" <nkutz@nc.rr.com> To: "Chuck Schantag" <admin@pownetwork.org> Mr. Schantag, I would like to offer a reply to your comments and the information that has been posted on the internet regarding my "military service". Short story - have I lied? The answer is yes. My military service is a matter of public record and is only that which is represented in that record. You offered me one last chance to admit to my lies. That had already been done some time ago but I have repeated it for you today. The situation we find ourselves in at this time, however, is the result of a carefully prepared personal vendetta, by people known to me, for purely personal reasons. I just found this out today. Yesterday, when shown the information that is posted on the website, even I was shocked. There are some real whoppers that even I have never heard before. Please keep a weathered eye at what is perceived as fact simply because it is on the internet. That aside, there is no excuse for lying about anything. I would like to offer my apologies and express my sincere remorse to all of the men and women who have served, willingly put themselves in harm's way and shed blood for our country. I would also like to apologize to friends whose trust I have violated. Further, I have never, to the very best of my recollection, used any of this to gain financial, employment or any other type of advantage. It has always been in the forum of guys exchanging BS stories. It started out as bar stories and got out of hand, to say the least. That of course is still very wrong. I am not fluent in the use of the internet so I would appreciate if you could post this in the appropriate places so that those who I have offended, insulted or disappointed may have access to it. I would also appreciate if you could forward this to Captain Bailey so that he can take whatever action he deems fit. As to the actions against me that you refer to taking. I understand your anger and zeal in this sort of situation. I hope this apology will suffice but you do whatever you feel must be done. Norman Kutz Nkutz@nc.rr.com 910 826-9517
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| Subject: NormKutz apologizes Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 I've known Norm since I got here to NC in 1996. The accusations on the site prior to the apology are just a drop in the bucket and I find it humorous that he was "shocked" by these "whoppers!!" I don't know where you live but a Saturday night visit to the bar at the "Aviators Grill and Pub" at PK Airpark, Raeford, NC would be worth the trip!! We Skydivers at Raeford that know Norm know him very well! A typical jump story would start out with the exclamation, "No Shit, there I was, thought I was gonna die!!" The "No Shit" stories are one thing, but fraud is another! I really like the way that, although he apologizes, he does a great a great job of "backpeddling" and attempts to minimize his own involvement in his own lies!! I personally heard everyone of those stories and others come out of his mouth! His great defense was that because of all his "covert" work for our government his "identity" was "modified" to protect him!! He makes me want to laugh, "HA!" Yes, I know Norm, only too well!! I met him at the Raeford DZ when I got here to NC from California in 1996. I hung out at the DZ with him and worked with him at ... He could sure tell a story, (Lie!!) When we would question the validity of his statements, he always had a great come back. NOT ANY MORE, MAN!!!!!!! Thanks for your efforts in helping expose our boy Normie!! |
| Subject: Re: [Fwd: NormKutz apologizes] Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 Please don't worry about anyone losing their job over Normie, I already quit mine after 13 1/2 years.... Yes, he is trying to play the senario about the "CIA Coverup of
his real (fake) identity!!! At this point, he will do anything to
try to keep his "job!!" He has the CEO and QC & Mfg.
Director snowed!!! (know what I mean?) I just left the Raeford DZ
a little while ago after a nice day of sky diving and Normie's name came
up in a few conversations (apres' jumping); and, to say the least, it
didn't look too good for Normie!! Yes, Normie needs to go
back on the "List!!" This afternoon, I |
| Subject: Normie Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 Hi Just thought I'd add a bit more 140 octane to the fire.
Normie's story about he and his sexy girl friend in the
"foreign" Normie claims that he never used any of this "persona" for
personal or financial gain??!! Then, how did he manage to parlay
all his BS to acquire the middle management status of
"Manufacturing Coordinator and Rigging Dept. Supervisor
????????? I "invited" him from the dropzone to come help
us out at xxx back in1997!!! I WAS THE LEAD RIGGER HAVING WORKED
THERE SINCE 27JUL87!!!!!!!!!!! Normie did good and when we were
peers, all was well; however, when he bullshitted our supervisor into
this "new, improved position!!" all hell broke loose!!
Normie's true character came out!; AND, it was all backed up with his
bull shit!! Norm never graduated High School and the company
position he aspired to If you would like to talk, give me a call. ... anytime. |
| Subject: Norman Kutz Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 Subject: Bogus apology ... Basically, people are waiting to see what sort of changes are
going to take place there, and then MAYBE they will |
| Subject: Norman Kutz Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 Subject: Bogus apology He is an embarrassment to the company. You can contact xxx at
xxx@xxx.com. You can contact me and I will |