William Scott Terrance EnglishClaims his buddy was skinned alive, he can't get his 201 file, and he was classified because of Operation Phoenix. |
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Date: Mon Oct 03 1994 21:55:46 Subj:
Bill English Article BAMA - _The Grudge 13 Affair_ -
However, Andrews maintains that the report does exist, and
tells how a summary of its contents became public knowledge. He
recounts that in
1981, two ufologists - Col Wendelle Stevens, based in Tucson, Arizona, and Thomas R. Adams of Project Stigma, based in Paris, Texas - were contacted by a former Green Beret officer and Vietnam veteran, whom Andrews gives the pseudonym 'Captain Toulinet'. According to Andrews, while in Vietnam Toulinet had investigated a Boeing B-52 "that had been forced down in the jungle by a UFO."............ He was then posted to a desk job as an intelligence analyst at the USAF base at RAF Chicksands in Bedfordshire, England........ One day in 1977, a 624-page document landed in Toulinet's in-tray for study. Although amazed by its contents, he duly wrote his analysis. Shortly afterward, Toulinet was told he was to be dismissed from the Army for 'unsatisfactory performance of duty' (which came as a severe surprise), and that he had been declared an 'undesirable alien' by the British. He was then flown that day to the USA by the USAF............. 'Toulinet's' real name, Adams revealed, was William S. English. He had indeed gone 'undergound' in 1982, and had renewed contact with Adams in 1988, from the state of Virginia. English was brought up in the small town of Sierra Vista, Arizona, and was the son of an Arizona State Representative.......... How, I asked, did a captain in the Green Berets, an officer in the US Army, get to be working at a base like Chicksands, in the UK?.......... "I was a civilian by the time I started work at Chicksands," said English. "I'd gotten out of the service in Germany; I was honourably discharged with the rank of captain in 1973................. "You mean the tail number? I haven't got the faintest idea. You have to realise, we were a Special Forces group. I didn't know airplanes from baloney. And we were in enemy territory, in Laos, and I don't care what anybody says, you have the tendency to move quickly in that situation.......... "No. In actuality, two years later Colonel Robert Black, the base commander, showed up at my place of business, a leather goods store in Tucson, with his operations sergeant, and told me they had been released from the serice very shortly after I had left because of _Grudge/Blue Book Report 13_."........... SIDEBAR - FROM HICK TO GRUNT "I volunteered for the Army, very much so. I was 16 years old. We lived out on a little ranch outside of Tucson.
"I was given a
battlefield commission in Vietnam. After I got out of PoW camp
there they bumped me up to first lieutenant, and when I left Vietnam
they tagged me a captain. I left the army because Vietnam was
over and they had an excess of officers.
"I had no West Point and no OCS, so I was given the choice of being reduced back down to Sergeant E-6 or taking a $10,000 bonus and getting out. Which I did. Took the money and ran." =============== SIDEBAR - ALL SHOOK UP Andrews' statement in _Extra-Terrestrials Among US_ that English went into a psychiatric hospital as a result of visiting a B-52 that had been attacked by a UFO is not true. English did spend some time as a psychiatric patient, but for more prosaic reasons. He explained: "I was in the middle of a firefight when they rotated me back to the States, and 24 hours later, after two tours in Vietnam, I was sitting in my mom's living room. A friend invited me to go deer hunting with him, and I was sitting cleaning my rifle, and a couple of kids threw some firecrackers in the front yard. I punched out a $200 plate-glass window and if I'd had ammunition in the gun I'd probably have killed them. "My mom came running into the living room. I told her to get her blankety-blank head down before it got blown off, and she picked up a 20lb brass samovar lamp, which she had gotten in Iran, and nailed me in the back of the head with it. Then she called Davis-Monthan AFB and they sent an ambulance and two APs [Air Force Security Police] out there, and they sent me on a special flight to Walter Read Army Hospital. I spent six months going through deprogramming, and then they rotated me to Germany." |
| http://www.alamogordonews.com/news/ci_6273311 Leatherworker shares Monty Python days Alamogordo Daily News By Karl Anderson, Staff Writer Article Launched: 07/01/2007 12:00:00 AM MDT  Leather worker Bill English works on a motorcycle saddle bag Friday. (J.R. Oppenheim/Daily News) Bill English, a longtime resident of Alamogordo who has been a leatherworker for more than 40 years, worked as the film armorer for the movie "Excaliber" and "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" and recalled some interesting anecdotes about working with the British comedy troupe. "I have to tell you that John Cleese is insane," English said. "A lot of what they did was purely ad lib. I don't recall ever seeing a script. They were all a lot of fun to work with. They were all maniacs. The pub owners hated to see them coming because they could never keep enough beer on hand." English's full name is William Scott Terrance English. He was born in Alamogordo March 12, 1952. "If you're looking for film credits, I'm listed as Terrence English," English said. "John Cleese taught me how to drink beer with Scotch. That was back in the days when I was trying terribly hard to be English," he said with a boisterous laugh. English began learning the art of leatherworking at the age of 13 as an apprentice for his grandfather, L.D. Van Zandt. Graduating from Sunnyside High School in Tucson, Ariz. When his country called, English answered. He joined the Army Special Forces, or Green Berets, in 1969 and was sent to Vietnam. "Just 3 1/2 months before the end of my tour in Vietnam, I was captured by the Viet Cong," English said. "I spent those 3 1/2 months as a POW and managed to escape from the roving camp that held me just north of the DMZ. When I got out of the hospital in Saigon, they sent me back to duty with the Fifth Group, Special Forces. "This was how I ended up doing two consecutive tours in Vietnam. I got out with an honorable discharge in 1977 after eight years. That's really all I care to say about that part of my life." Today, English works at S&H Shoe Repair, located at 700 E. First Street, Suite 754, in the Granada Center in Alamogordo, which is owned by Harley Herrald. "Harley gave me the opportunity to get back into leatherworking," English said. "I owe him a lot." Herrald and English have 70 years of combined experience in the business, and while the boot and shoe repair is the mainstay of the business, the real passion for English is the ornate leatherworking he does, producing custom saddles, horse and motorcycle saddlebags, tooled panels, shoe soles, day planner clutch purses, leather drinking cups, hats, belts, hatbands and even custom leather armor. One thing that makes English's work unique is that it comes with a lifetime warranty for the life of the original owner, according to English. English said that one saddle he made 30 years ago came back recently with the leather "all torn up." He replaced the damaged leather and sent the saddle back at no expense to the customer. "I make a full range of saddle trees that include Western, English, and medieval," English said. English said a saddle can take from four weeks to as long as six months to complete, depending on how elaborate and ornate a customer wants it to be. Much of English's work reflects another passion of his, the Society for Creative Anachronism. English has been a member of SCA for 30 years, and belongs to the Shire of the White Mountains in Alamogordo, which falls under the Barony of Naruun in El Paso, as a part of the Kingdom of the Outlands. The SCA is a worldwide organization that partakes of medieval costumes, weaponry and cultures. Membership is open to men, women, and children. "The SCA is a very iatrical part of my life that I really love," English said. "The people are great and the times we have are even better." |
| In checking credits for EXCALIBUR - Only a "Terry English"
is noted. http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1800062820/cast No Monty Python film is noted in his additional credits. http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1808901517 NO English is noted in credits for Monty Python and the Holy Grail http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1800096752/cast ===================================
quote ==================================== The REAL Terry English:
http://www.terryenglisharmourer.co.uk/filmwork.html CREDITS AND FILM WORK To King Terry - Luc Besson Terry, you are magnificent. I couldn't have made the picture if you hadn't made the armour. My eternal thanks for your inspired work. With honour and affection. - John Boorman For Terry Jabberwocky's favourite Press Agent - Terry Gilliam Film Credits include: James Cameron's 'ALIENS' Neil Jordan's 'HIGH SPIRITS' Terry Gilliam's 'JABBERWOCKY' John Boorman's 'EXCALIBUR'* David Fincher's 'ALIEN 3' Russel Mulcahy's 'HIGHLANDER II' Ken Russell's 'GOTHIC' Peter Hunt's 'LAST DAYS OF POMPEII' Anthony Harvey's 'THE LION IN WINTER' Jerry Zucher's 'FIRST KNIGHT' Joel Schumacher's 'BATMAN & ROBIN' Luc Besson's 'JOAN OF ARC' Ridley Scott's 'GLADIATOR' Antoine Fuqua's 'KING ARTHUR' * Academy Award Nomination - Best Costume Nicol Willimson as Merlin - Excalibur Film & TV Commercials include: Hammerite, Schweppes, Lloyds Bank, Bells Whisky, Volkswagen, Cadburys, Timex Watches, US Marines, British Airways, McDonalds, etc.
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| .... In 69, SF was getting recruits fresh from
jump school at Benning. Up until 1962, in order to get into SF one had to be an E4 or above, and have at least three years service, or sign a commitment to re-enlist. In 1963 or so, we instructors of the 7th SFGA Communications Committee changed our old motto Quality over Quantity to read Quantity over Quality. Now to the chase, it is possible that an 18 or 19 year old may have made the grade, but not a 17 year old. One, each enlistee had to be a high school graduate. We had a few 19 year olds in SOG, at least up at FOB1. These are the guys who are wandering around in the mid to late fifties, with a number of battle scars, from some serious encounters. Secondly, Basic Training will take up a couple months, then there is AIT where they learn a Skill, which can take anywhere from three months to 18 months. Following this there is BAC where they learn to fall out of perfectly good airplanes, which normally is a six week course, if I remember right. Figure that two years has lapsed from being sworn in to graduating SFTG. Then there is whatever the powers to be decide he will become in SF. Which could run a couple months as a Light Weapons , three months Heavy Weapons, six months for Demo or Commo, and a year for the Medics.... JR |
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His exploits must have occurred in an alternative history timeline,
because he's not in my database and such exploits did not occur in our
war. His "friends" also are NIMDB
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