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Mick
Strider
aka Micky Ray Burger
reported
2005
2006
2007
http://www.coldsteel.com/strider.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20070331043311/http://www.coldsteel.com/strider.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20070420201010/http://www.coldsteel.com/strider.html
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Mr. Burger served from 26 Nov 85 --- did his
basic, airborne school and RIP completion latter May 86.
Joined Co C 2/75th 29 May 86
Joined Co A 3/47th 4 Aug 86 -- Discharged 26 Nov 86
AWOL when he was with the 3/47th as shown on St Louis
records.
IF YOU SERVED WITH BURGER/STRIDER please CONTACT
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02-09-2007,
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Mick
Strider is one of my closest friends. To put that in
perspective, I have been a full time cop for 19 years, and my
list of friends with a felony conviction is exactly 1-Mick
Strider. Mick is one of the few people who I allow around my
kid. Mick did in fact serve with the Army Rangers. He has the
DD214 to prove it, numerous Rangers who served with him, and
it seems that the Ranger community has no issue with his
claims-just a bunch of guys like Kevin McClung, Lance Harris,
and Lynn Thompson who have never served in any L/E or Military
capacity, yet feel the need to "out" those who did.
Its called envy and regret. Did Mick do other
"stuff" after seperation from the military due to an
injury-yes. Some positive, some negative. There is often more
to many stories, and this is one of them. In the many years I
have known Mick, I have never heard him make a single public
claim of anything other than his Army service and Ranger
background.
Many folks confuse Mick with Duane Dwyer, the co-owner of
Strider knives. He is a confirmed former USMC Scout/Sniper (he
has also been accused of being a fake and felon by the same
crowd, I guess they always allow fakes to give speeches at S/S
graduations). Duane is also a reserve Police Officer and
serves on a SRT unit (we always give ex-felons badges). He
also has experience outside of normal military service. Duane
does far more shows and appearances than Mick. He is actually
the one most have seen or spoken to at events, and he is very
proud of his USMC background and loves to talk. The guy at the
table drinking beer and claiming to be a marine Sniper is in
fact Duane and not Mick for all the internet know it alls.
I am going to be running Strider's L/E division, which should
also make me a fraud, felon, and wannabe as well.
Chris Osmand............seems to have some issues of his own,
and I'll leave it at that.
I always find it amusing in this whole thing that these
"posers" are genuine rock stars within the military
special operations community, yet a bunch of civilians and
internet heroes are the ones throwing the most stones. I have
been to several events within the most elite warrior
communities in this country and seen with my own eyes the
admiration and praise given to both Mick and Duane. Not
because they make great war tools, its because of the other
things they have done to support the military and L/E
community that is never talked about or advertised.
I am the one who wrote the article about Strider and their
SOCOM connection. It
was in error that it was actually JSOC
(which later became a SOCOM asset as I understand it). I can
accept that I am not perfect, but it is sort of insane to
hammer Mick and Duane for a mistake I made in a 7 year old
article in a annual gun rag. Anyone who knows Mick knows that
he is very quiet, is not a braggert, is proud of the time he
spent as a Ranger, and isn't proud of his mistakes. The guy
makes a great product. Their knives are 100% made in the USA
with domestic materials. They go out of their way to service
the military and L/E community as their #1 priority, and run a
business with several veterans employed in key positions. If
that isn't good enough to compete with the internet envy and
whining crap, then I highly suggest getting a knife from one
of the "knife fighter", former CIA (yeah right)
Action Jacksons that are trying to save us all from Mick.
__________________
"Cpl ##### is condescending and abrassive towards coworks
who don't follow directions" my favorite evaluation
quote........if I'm like that at work, you should see me on
the internet .
"Even if I order you to trim your mustache, you're going
to totally ignore me, huh".-another favorite supervisor
"discussion".
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Your Response
... So to answer your question, i have no idea if 2/75 worked under JSOC,
but i know that i certainly never "WORKED" under JSOC.... |
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02/13/2007
MORE: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=453852
At this point I have no doubt that Mick Strider was a
Ranger. What I'm taking issue with are his claims of
combat experience, carjacking conviction, "being
sentenced to serve in Somalia instead of prison",
firearms ownership as a felon, and lying about his
background to promote his business. It is
particularly disgusting that he made this outlandish
Somalia claim on the 6th of this month, and has
apparently repeated it for years.
KS
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After all, he has lied to the public, magazines,
writers and gone far beyond embellishing. Remember he accused
a
REAL SEAL of having less than honorable discharge when in fact Chris Osman had an
HONORABLE
discharge and PROFITED based on those fraudulent representations.
Lance
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Claims PTSD as well. |
Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:01 PM
EDITED for length
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Dear Chris,
Please accept this correspondence as a formal apology. As you are aware,
at one time we were business acquaintances on friendly terms. Based in
part on information that was provided to me that I did not independently
verify, I reached some conclusions about you and your business. Those
conclusions colored my perception of you and your company.
In response to the conclusions I reached about you, I said some things
and published statements about your company that were more than likely
defamatory. I made statements regarding the status of your discharge
from the military, wrongfully accused you of being responsible for
putting marines I know behind bars, accused you of ripping off other
people's products, and made negative statements about the way that you
operate your business.
My words have had an impact on your life, have unnecessarily cost you
and your company the loss of potential business, and pushed you to the
point where you felt it was necessary to file a lawsuit against me to
resolve our issues. I hereby apologize to you for the untrue things I
previously published about you and your company and am sorry for the
resulting consequences to you.
I hope that this formal apology can rectify any damage that may have
been caused by my actions, and I hope that we can both put this behind
us and move on with our lives.
You have my word that I do not intend to say anything about you or your
business, positive or negative, to anyone unless compelled by law or
court order to do so.
Signed,
Mick Strider, President Strider Knives Inc.
Dated 3-16-06
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Section 1, part (c), Mick Strider had to allocute as follows:
Mick Strider hereby acknowledges that he has never been deployed
as a U.S. Army Ranger. Strider also acknowledges that he has never
served in or participated with SOCOM (Special Operations Command).
Strider also acknowledges that he has never had any combat experience
with any branch of the U.S. Military or U.S. Government Agencies, nor
has he participated in any "Black Ops". Strider served in
2/75, but never graduated Ranger School. Strider lost all rank, was
barred from re-enlistment and was discharged from the Military as a
Private.
(d) To the extent that any contrary representations have been made
or or made in the future, by any other person or entity, Strider agrees
he shall take the following affirmative steps within three (3) weeks
after notice by Plaintiffs:
(1) send a letter via certified mail to the person or entity identified
by the Plaintiffs affirming all of the information set forth in the
first sentence of this paragraph and a request that any contrary
representations be immediately corrected, and (2) send a copy of that
letter and a certified mail receipt to Plaintiffs or their attorneys of
record. Notice shall be deemed effective on Strider by sending a letter
to Strider at his last known address or by sending a letter to his
attorney of record in this litigation via certified mail.
(e)SKI will immediately cease and desist from holding Strider out as
having ever been deployed as a U.S. Army Ranger, a member of or a
participant with SOCOM, as having ever been deployed in "black
ops", or as having had any combat experience with any branch of the
U.S. Military or U.S. Government. SKI shall take immediate actions to
correct any such representations currently made on its own website (see
Exhibit B) and to the extent possible shall take immediate actions to
correct any such representations by its business partners, including but
not limited to advertising regarding SKI's partnership and distribution
through Buck Knives.
(f) Strider agrees not to defame Plaintiffs in the future.
(g) The Parties acknowledge that the proceeding subdivisions are all
material covenants to the settlement of this dispute and that should
enforcement of this agreement be necessary, Defendants agree that
injunctive relief would be appropriate.
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Hey there.
Mick Strider again.
Please let me know if there is any way i
can assist in this matter.
ill gladly send my DD214, or
whatever else you may need.
Hope your well.
Mick Strider
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Mick Strider Responds with the following:
http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000514;p=1#000001
Really? i didn't know that!
As a time frame reference only, i'de like to point out that American
Hero, Pat Tillman was in the Army from July of 2002 until April 22nd,
2004.
Was Pat Tillman a Ranger Beau?
If i had died instead of crushing my spine
would i have been a Ranger?
i have never claimed to have been any kind of super hero. Only someone
who knows a thing or two about knives.
i have ALWYAYS made it VERY clear that i left the Army early due to an
injury.
im sorry i wasn't in long enough to impress you.
im sorry that giving until my body broke wasn't enough for you to
believe im an adequate knife maker/human being.
i note that you served as an 11B. Not even a 1P on there? So then in
the 4 years YOU served you didn't excel as much as i did in the tiny
little two items ive shown on my 214?
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http://www.badlandsforums.com/forums/printthread.php?t=6774
(attached also as file “Badlands Forums - whats up with mick__.pdf”)
Lets
end out the military stuff with my discharge:
Mick was
discharged from the Army as a Private:
Oh hell yes!
I was borne a Ranger.
I spent my early life training to be a Ranger.
I joined the army when I was 17 on delayed entry to be a Ranger.
I became a Ranger and served in the 2/75 Ranger Battalion.
I smashed the cable that runs from my Ranger Ass through my neck to my
Ranger computer. Because of this, I walked around with numb hands and
feet.
Ever hump a twenty six mile road march?
Ever hump a twenty six, with numb feet? Every toe was broken, every nail
was missing…my toes almost had to be removed. No…I did NOT fall out.
I lost my jump status.
Then I heard the words that will ring in my head for eternity:
“Go Put on your BDU’s….”
I had been DX’d.
My attitude became shitty….i lost all rank and was discharged from the
Army. I never joined the Army….i was a Ranger.
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To:
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Your Response
- Its hard to understand my answers because your blending my
words with the words of every one else. i can only
answer for what i have said, not what others have said.
- 1. As far as i know, JSOC was alive while i was in
the Army. I have no idea if 2/75 was under JSOC
during the short time i was there. That was out of my
scope. My scope was wondering why the hell my body was
fucked up, and hoping i could work through it. My
personal chain of command was enough or me to worry about.
So to answer your question, i have no idea if 2/75 worked
under JSOC, but i know that i certainly never
"WORKED" under JSOC.
- 2. "provide the proof of your back injuries and
that removal from jump status and the Ranger 2nd Battalion
were indeed due to injury." Why? ive
already stated that i was DX'd. i never said i had a
medical discharge. i have stated several times, when i
left there, they didn't believe i had a spinal issue.
They believed i was faking it. i had compression
injuries, but my X-rays looked well enough, i should have
been GTG. Turns out i was born with a bit of a lame
spine. My jump status was removed not
because the MD said so, it was taken because i could not
perform....i was on shitbag status. Equally, its not
any ones business WHY i left 2/75 or the Army. Only to
confirm if i spent any time there.
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Since the start of this investigation in 2005,
Burger/Strider has NOT provided an UN-REDACTED copy of the DD214
nor has he authorized a FULL RELEASE of his military and military
medical records to settle this once and for all.
He receives NO V.A. disability nor VA care for a "bad back"
resulting from a bad jump in Ranger training.
Attempts to verify an alleged "Somalia" for "prison"
deal has met with zero evidence.
Attempts to prove ANY work in South America between his service time and
prison time has failed.
One cannot prove a negative.
A copy of the OFFICIAL DD214 has been requested from
the records center.
This blacked out DD214 was posted online by Burger/Strider.
The original
was NOT provided to the courts in
the aforementioned lawsuit.
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Whether or not he can or
should be calling himself a Ranger;
This doesn't take into account Ranger history - only
the CURRENT definition for a Ranger. The Korean War and Vietnam Conflict
had different criteria for training, the bestowing of the Tab and the
name "Ranger."
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1 - Ranger school - the 62 day
course grants you the Ranger TAB ONLY to be a Ranger you have to at a
Ranger UNIT doing a Ranger job...
2 - He could have been at that unit BUT not a Ranger IF he was not
fulfilling a Ranger job AND he only went thru RIP. Have to do the
62 day course in Ranger school...
S S CSCS
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He's
not, in my book, a Ranger.
He
did serve some time in a battalion, and he deserves credit and respect
for wanting and trying. Wanting and trying, however, aren't
enough.
He
knows in his own heart what he is, or isn't. If someone said I
wasn't a Ranger, I wouldn't get defensive and angry, I'd just laugh.
It
does appear that he is open and honest about the fact that he was
there a short period of time, and he was open about being DX'd.
If I were him, I'd let it go at that and not invite additional abuse....
Hope
this helps. One might argue that this case falls into a
"grey" area - however the entire regiment is built on
standards. This guy didn't meet them, so he's not one of them.
RLTW
K
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I guess I lean toward the traditional position A that if one
successfully completes the Ranger School/course, is awarded both the
tab and the SQI, they can call themselves a Ranger. That does not
detract from those soldiers who serve in or with 75th Ranger Regiment
elements, but who probably never had the opportunity to attend the
Ranger course. It should be noted also that award of the CIB or CMB
while a member of the 75th Ranger Regiment does not qualify a person
for award of the Ranger Tab as it did for those in the WWII battalions
and the one company in Korea.
B
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It
has been stated that I lied about going to Somalia for a year rather
than having gone to prison.
I
have NEVER made this statement. I
HAVE stated that, early on I was offered a plea
that included me going to Somalia for a year, I would then being on
probation for a period of ten
years upon my return. I was
VERY sure to clarify when the statement was made, that I would have gone
as a civilian and that I had no relationship with the US Government or
3/75. This plea of course
never went into law, and I DID go to prison for a term of five years.
I have never misled anyone regarding this.
I am currently attempting to contact my Federal Defender
from the time to verify this statement.
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When I was arrested, there was a Somalia contract pending.
I'm not sure if you know much about the Federal Justice System, but it
works on a system of guidlines. If your found guilty of X you will
spent Z amount of time in prison. There is no room for this's and
that's. There of course is one exception, cooperation. That
means being a rat.
I wouldn't tell them anything, but my lawyer worked another angle.
He worked a plea where I would move forward with the pending contract
which was for just over a year, then donate all of the money earned as a
fine. THIS would be considered my "cooperation".
The Judge would then be able to give me a "downward departure"
for my "cooperation". Upon my return, I would have
served ten years of probation.
The plea was okayed by the Judge and Pros.....but last minute, the Pros
backed out. His excuse was that my crime was a new Fed crime.
I was the third Fed case in CA. The first by a Hispanic the second
by a Black. If they allowed me this plea, they would appear
racist.
The contract was simple enough....it was for DepState (not a blue hat
job) to guard food and med shippments. If it had not been a
State sanctioned contract it couldn't have counted as cooperation.
I'm not sure why my Lawyer has not gotten back to me....I kind of forgot
about him....I've been incredibly busy. I have a large move on the
5th....and its getting close. Ill be off and on on comms until I'm
done...but will do my best.
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Quote:
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the end…it was decided tthat I would serve for a year in
Somalia, this service would act as my "cooperation"
that the Feds are so fond of. I would then forfeit any money
earned that year as a fine. In addition I would have a term of
probation upon my return to the US.
While in the courtroom, during my sentencing…when the
prosecutor wass supposed to be saying "Your Honor, we
recommend Mr. Strider be sentenced to one year service in
Somalia…" what came out of his mouth was "we changed
our mind…"
So rather than go to Somalia, I went to prison for 5 years.
Luckily I only had to do 59.5 months of that five years….
Yes by the way….that was in mid 1993. I DO feel the deaths of
my Rannger buddies, that I failed by sitting in jail during
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In that same message to me he also wrote ------
"The contract was simple enough....it was for DepState (not a
blue hat job) to guard food and med shippments. If it had
not been a State sanctioned contract it couldn't have counted as
cooperation."
SJ
"The problem is, the prosecution didn't offer it, or
accept it, Strider's lawyer did - which is effectively worthless
as credibility. I'm sure there
are plenty of criminals, drug lords, mafia king pins and others
who've made all sorts of offers to keep out of jail and still
wound up behind bars."
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"The facts remain that there was no such plea bargain.
Strider's attorney made an *offer*, which was rejected.
There was no agreement that was suddenly nullified by the prosecutor
"changing his mind" in court. "
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