Heroes or Villains?

INTRODUCTION

CLAIMING VIETNAM PRISONER OF WAR:

V V A - Claims by members of  Vietnam Veterans of America

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Reported Claims of:
Medal of Honor, Other than Vietnam POWs, Son Tay Raiders, DSC, DFC, Purple Heart, Silver Star, Bronze Star, Navy Cross, SEALS, Rangers, Pilots, Special Forces, Green Berets, Combat, Vietnam Helicopter Pilots, Flying Tigers, DOUBT EVERYTHING, Don't Encourage and more.

APOLOGIES AND CLARIFICATIONS

Individuals reported as of 01/2012
CLAIMS AS NOTED 
#  =  on list over 15 years

All claims highlighted in lavender may be eligible for prosecution under U.S. Code Title 18  or under the  STOLEN VALOR ACT signed into law Dec 20, 2006.

Note: The names listed in the next pages have made VARIOUS or multiple claims
that cannot be substantiated or have been proven FALSE. 

These individuals
are IN ADDITION TO those investigated and named in the book STOLEN VALOR.

Those with a "LINK" have records, news articles, pictures or tales posted.
All names are first checked here  http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/ if POW claims are made. 

Comments in GREEN are from information contained in military records (or lack of military records) obtained
through FOIA when requested THROUGH the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis.

THOSE CLAIMING MEDAL OF HONOR
NOTE: In 1996 HLI Lordship Industries (at the time, the OFFICIAL USG contractor for the Medal of Honor) admitted selling THREE HUNDRED unauthorized medals for $75.00 each from 1991-1994. They were fined $80,000. NOT ALL of those medals have been recovered. Offenders in possession of an unauthorized medal can be arrested, fined ( The maximum fine for a criminal offense is $250,000, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Section 3571(b)(3) ) and jailed (up to a year). It is the only military medal that CANNOT be bought, sold, bartered, traded, collected, auctioned, exchanged.... EVERY Medal of Honor is awarded by act of Congress. Less than 84 REAL Medal of Honor recipients are alive today.
 

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Name                                    Date Reported Hometown Claims Findings
jones,  david  lee 07/2008 Leesburg, FL CLAIMS Special Forces, "The FIRST A-team." Claims he rescued POWs. Wears a bad copy of a green beret with an even worse oversized copy of a 5th group flash. Claims 100% VA disability. NOT SF IN NAM.
jones, jeff 09/2009 Denton, TX

Claim to have been awarded the CMOH, but turned it down in honor of his 11 fallen comrades (fellow SEALS?) during Operation Desert Storm.

 

 

I am not aware of ANY case in history where any person has successfully refused or declined award of the MOH. Friends are cc:d who can check the SEAL claim.

 

Sincerely,

Doug

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No Navy SEALs were KIA in Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm. No SEALs were offered or awarded the MOH during Desert Storm. It is my understanding that there were NO MOH awards made to anyone in any branch of the military for actions taking place during Desert Shield/Desert Storm.

If you wish a formal/official statement to this effect you may contact the US Naval Special Warfare Command, Public Affairs Office, in Coronado CA.

If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me again.

Respectfully,

Steve Robinson RM2(SEAL)
USN 1970-1978
SEAL Team ONE
Inshore Undersea Warfare Group ONE
Defense Analyst – Soviet Threat specialization 1981-1993
UDT-SEAL Association - Member
POW Network Board of Directors
Naval Special Warfare Archives - SOF Analyst/Contributing Journalist
Disabled American Veterans - Life Member
FORMER Special Investigator - SEAL Authentication Team
CyberSEALs.org - Webmaster
Author - "NO GUTS, NO GLORY - Unmasking Navy SEAL Imposters"

JONES,  JIMMIE WENDLE 08/2009

11/2010

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Claims Navy SEAL and was taped with phony POW. News article/video  was edited after complaints from REAL SEALS.

 http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july252009/traveling_vietnam_wall_tk_7-25-09.php at the WALL in Salem, Oregon area. l IN OREGON

Was seen wearing a Bronze Star with a “V” device, thought to be a Joint Service Commendation Medal with a “V” device, three Purple Hearts, a PUC, and finally a SEAL Trident Warfare Insignia

 

ACTUAL RECORDS

 

From: Larry Bailey
To: Salem-News.com newsroom
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: Phonies

......I called him.  He tried to tap dance, but it didn't take long to get him to admit that he was lying about being a SEAL.  He actually said that he wore the SEAL insignia because he "supports" the SEALs!  So nice fella!
 
I told him that I have ways of tracking him and that, if I ever hear of his claiming SEALdom again, I will turn his sorry ass over to NCIS, who will prosecute him under the Stolen Valor act.
 
What is he coordinator of, VFW, AMVETS, Legion?  I'd like to contact his brothers at  the post.
 
Many thanks for this info; I'll let you know if anything further develops.  Do the same for me, please!
 
Allbest,
 
Larry
 

JOnes, John Melvin 2002, 2003
08/2008
11/2009
Addison OH,  WV Claims Nam vet, POW, Purple Heart, Bronze Star, Silver Star, MEDAL OF HONOR. Served USMC. REMOVED from AMVETS chapter membership. Attempted to join local American Legion with false DD214.

He is now living above "Big Bertha's" Strip Club in Jefferson (Near St. Albans) West Virginia. ALSO KNOWN AS PLAYMATES SHOWBAR.
 
Jones, John R. . OR Claiming SPECIAL FORCES and "GREEN BERET"...
100% disability, VA POW ID. POW SS claims Special Forces, rescued w/2 others by SEAL Team 11. VFW Junior Vice.
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Jones, Montana 01/2007

07/2009

TN http://www.santamariatimes.com/articles/2007/01/27/news/centralcoast/news07.txt

Highway Patrol honors life-saving truck driver and officers
By Julian J. Ramos/Staff writer

Montana Jones is a lifesaver, but he isn't making much of it.

“I don't think it was anything special,” said Jones, a Tennessee-based truck driver and former Navy SEAL. “I did what I've been trained to do in my life.”.....


Julian J. Ramos can be reached at 688-5522, Ext. 6008 or jramos@santamariatimes.com.

Jan. 27, 2007

NOT A SEAL
Jordan, Irby Franklin  11/2009

11/2011

AL He claims to have served as a Navy SEAL in the Vietnam era.

MOAA member a retired US Navy LCDR and Navy SEAL.  Claims 3 purple hearts and MIA in Vietnam for 4 days.  He has in his possession  a letter on CIA letterhead addressing him as Rear Admiral Jordan and giving him command of a secret CIA unit authorized to operate in the USA.  He also claims to be a Vietnam era combat F-4 pilot.  He also claims to be a professional engineer.

He was even recorded repeating the SEAL claim and it is posted on youtube. See this video posted on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlJSu8f5maI   At about the 6:44 time mark Irby Jordan is on stage and says
 “I’m a veteran; I’m a US Navy SEAL that fought in Vietnam. I helped organize the ghost SEALS.” 

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11/2011 - Irby Jordan has been arrested on charges related to child pornography and communicating a terrorist threat.

http://www.rickeystokesnews.com/article.php/arrestedterrorist-threats-22952

Updated: Arrested:Terrorist Threats
Posted by: Matt Boster
Date: Nov 23 2011 9:04 AM
On November 21, 2011 the Dothan Police Department Juvenile Investigative Division signed a warrant against Irby Jordan for making terrorist threats following a recent investigation. Investigators say they were recently called to a local business after the caller located questionable materials on a computer and agreed to turn the computer over to authorities for further investigation. Upon arrival, investigators came into contact with Jordan who appeared agitated by police presence and became increasingly disorderly when presented search warrants for his work space and residence. Jordan shouted threats at officers stating “You better call them off, or they are going to die!”........


ACTUAL RECORDS
Subject: Irby Franklin Jordan not a SEAL

Please pass this supplemental information regarding Mr. IRBY FRANKLIN JORDAN.

24 Jul 1962 – 03 Feb 1964 – Total active duty service 1 year 6 months 10 days

24 Jul 1962 Enlisted

24 Jul 1962 Reported to Recruit Training Center for basic training

24 Oct 1962 Reported to VU-7 Utility Squadron SEVEN based at North Island Naval Air Station

NAS North Island is located at the north tip of Coronado Island. Coronado is where SEALs train and work, and where Mr. JORDAN might have encountered them.

13 Jun 1963 Received for Duty Under Instruction at Naval Air Technical Training Center, Memphis TN (STUDENT) for training in the AA, AN, and AR skill ratings.

All are aviation-support related skills

03 Feb 1964 Discharged from Active Duty

No reason is given in either the NPRC summary or personnel record entries which that organization provided for Mr. JORDAN’s discharge. Such a short term of active duty service is not normal. There do not appear to be any record entries related to injury, illness, or medical treatment which might have preceded his discharge. Without additional information or documentation, it is inappropriate for me to offer any speculation regarding the reason for his discharge other than to note that it is not customary or normal USN procedure.

Respectfully,

Steve Robinson RM2(SEAL)

JORDAN, LEONARD 02/2010 S Haven, MI
THE HERALD-PALLADIUM
St. Joseph Michigan/ Feb. 25, 2010
By ANDREW LERSTEN
H-P South Haven Bureau

SOUTH HAVEN - Leonard Jordan of South Haven, 90, is a World War II veteran who earned many well-deserved combat medals fighting for his country.
But his claim, reported in a Herald-Palladium feature, that he was part of the famed black Tuskegee Airmen in the war cannot be backed up by his military records, which the newspaper obtained.
The Herald-Palladium was contacted by Ron Brewington of Los Angeles, an expert on the Tuskegee Airmen, shortly after the article about Jordan was published in November......
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JORDAN,  Steve a

aka DustySnakeEyes

aka sgtjordan@yahoo.com

aka Michael Knight

also may be using STEVE DOMANSKI - NJ NG

09/2011

10/2011

12/2011

02/2012

KY/NJ FROM VAMPIRE TO ARMY RANGER

Don't miss:    http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=26430   with comments suspected to be from him!!

pics changed overnight!    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Steve-Jordan/276899312340405

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Jorgensen, Jack Scott
aka Jack Scott Jorgenson
aka Storky Jorgenson
aka Jack Scott Jorgeson
aka Storky

07/01
04/2002
3rd report 04/2002

12/2009

Vinton,  IA  Claiming SPECIAL FORCES and "GREEN BERET"...


Claims: 5th SF Group June 70-71; POW, Hanoi Hilton [3 days to 3 yrs]; Staff Sgt, Army; In country Sept 69 - May 72; wounded 3rd tour; guest speaker on tour in IA mid 80's - on PTSD and his experiences.

ALSO claims newspaper background; AP reporter; Sports Illustrated reporter/photographer; Clemson U football grad.
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Jack Jorgensen was originally from Cedar Falls, Ia. He was a phony back in the 1970s. He spent time in the slammer for writing bad checks.  Since he defrauded the VA for about a half million dollars according to the  posting you may want to know that his mother passed away probably within the last 3-5 years and he may have inherited some money.  He opened up a realty office in Cedar Falls, Ia next to Dan Deery Motors about that time as well.  Don't know if the business is still in existence.....
St. Louis cannot locate any records with SS number, unit/POW claims. Received VA TREATMENT - has received POW monthly benefit payments etc totaling approx FIVE HUNDRED AND TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS ($512,000.00)! HAS BEEN REPORTED FOR FRAUD.

Between 69 and 72 was convicted of felony (s) and served time in Anomasa State Penitentiary. Paroled, parole was revoked, more time served. Criminal record 1969 - 1997

Clemson denies ever a student.

jOSEPH,  joE t. 07/2008 PA This individual is in the local newspapers continually telling the public how he personally raises money for Veterans here and overseas. You will find gallon jars all over town in business places and restaurants, with help the Veterans signs on them!
 
Cannot find anyone who has said that this person helped him.  
For nearly 20 years he has never been employed anywhere, except holding various offices in Veterans organizations.
He was or maybe still a member of local American Legion Post PA0051. His last office was financial/secretary.
Was also member of AMVETS Post 103 Hopwood, PA.
CHECK FOR LEGIT CHARITY BEFORE DONATING ANY MONEY

Actual records

Jostandt, Gary LANCE 10/2010

12/2010

Newnan, GA The tale and the records .
uses the name
Joyner, Wihuna "Fire"

aka
Lane, Grace Edna
Lane, Grace E H
Lane, Edna
Lane,  Grace W
08/2007

02/2008

04/2008

Accomac, VA
Newman, GA
Villa Rica, GA

Fire Joyner is somewhere in Illinois and her husband still lives in GA.

Claims USMC, nurse Colonel, retired after 20 years of pulling wounded Marines into helicopters in Vietnam.  Reportedly claims she was wounded three times. At native American Indian powwows, she  wears a shawl with  Navy Cross, Purple Heart and Silver Star.  

PICTURES!

LOOK WHO'S BACK - except her age is overstated by YRS -  she was born in '57.

http://zone.aimoo.com/profile/Wihuna

Feel free to browse the phony list for:

 KEITH SMITH

 GERALD BLUEFEATHER SMITH

 JOEY PIERCE

 BLAINE MARTIN

 DANIEL LAWS

 WIHUNA JOYNER

MARK DAVIS

Nick Standing Bear / Joseph Valdez

 
ALL NATIVE AMERICANS - ALL  making bogus claims. All in the same area or attending the same  pow wows.
jraven
04/2009 CT see:  

Breshears, Jr, Lt Robert C. 

AKA BREASHEAR, ROBERT C

AKA BRESHEARS, R.C.

AKA JRAVEN

 

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JUMPANUNT Chawinpon, or   Jesada 06/2011

07/2011

THAILAND .
Jurla or Jerla  . . Claims Green Beret captured Laos '67. Held 8 months. .

NEXT

Other individuals can be found on various web-sites
Their statements have yet to be substantiated or have been proven false.

Those that have admitted lies/apologized....

 

INTRODUCTION

CLAIMING VIETNAM PRISONER OF WAR:

V V A - Claims by members of  Vietnam Veterans of America

==================================
More Reported Claims:

Medal of Honor, Other than Vietnam POWs, Son Tay Raiders, DSC, DFC, Purple Heart, Silver Star, Bronze Star, Navy Cross, SEALS, Rangers, Pilots, Special Forces, Green Berets, Combat, Vietnam Helicopter Pilots, Flying Tigers, DOUBT EVERYTHING, Don't Encourage 

APOLOGIES AND CLARIFICATIONS

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