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INTRODUCTION V V A - Claims by members of Vietnam Veterans of America ================================== |
Heroes or Villains? |
Individuals reported as
of 03/2008
Note: These individuals are IN ADDITION TO those investigated and named in the book STOLEN VALOR. Those
with a "LINK" have records, news articles, pictures or tales
posted |
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| Name | Location | Date Reported |
ALL Claim POW or MIA and then some |
Actual Records Indicate/Notes | |
| Wade, Jeffrey Thomas | . | 1999 | Claims POW | . | |
| Wade, Lawton Ford | San Bernadino, CA | 1999 | charged with attempted murder of step-daughter -- PTSD, POW defense | . | |
| Wadkins, Robert | Lake Worth, FL | 02/02 | Claims Diver with Submarine service, SEAL TEAM 2 in Mekong in '65 before being captured and held 17 months. Tells classes he wears hearing aids because VC put sticks in his ears. | Teaches security officer
training classes! Member VFW and DAV. |
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| Wagener, William J "Bill" | Santa Maria CA | 09/2003 | Claims POW, suffered minor injuries, but major psychological trauma when captured by VC. Claims served with "865th GG" in II Corps Sept 69. Claims wounded and highly decorated. | http://www.smartvoter.org/2000/11/07/ca/sba/vote/wagenerwj1/bio.html | |
| Wagner, Alan | Muscatine, IA | 06/01 | POW late 60's Army | . | |
| Wagner, Donald E | UT | # | Claims POW | . | |
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Waldron, Charles Andrew |
Hamilton, OH | 11/01 | Claims POW (10 days, 6 wks, 10 wks, take your pick...) member of Flying Tigers, NAVY SEAL, assassin. Claims 4 tours, and Medal of Honor (that he returned). |
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| NOT SEAl, NOT POW, NOT MOH. Dob 1951 records indicate Fireman's Apprentice - USS HULL DD945 |
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| Waldron, Tim | CA | # | Claims POW | . | |
| Wales, Ron/Ronnie/Ronald | . | 05/2002 | MOH, 6 yr POW, SF, combat wounded | . | |
| Walker, Charles | Chicago area | 11/2004 | Interviewed, Thursday,
Nov.11, 2004 on NBC affiliate, channel 5 WMAQ "...Among those served was 51-year-old Charles Walker, a pilot in Vietnam who lost a lung after being rescued from a POW camp. "I graduated, was drafted, I served my country, and I'm living in the streets," Walker said. "Honestly, it breaks my heart because I gave my adolescence, basically, from graduating, I gave that away, and ... I wound up getting put in a POW camp. I've got one lung left because of the military." The veteran is one of many who will soon be living in a new housing complex under construction by Catholic Charities, Norman reported...." |
Receiving services being offered to vets through Catholic Charities | |
| Walker, John Dr. | . | 1998 | Claims POW, wife POW/MIA activist | husband of Holly - exposed by Col Ted guy | |
| Wallace,
Jim aka James L. Wallace |
South
Dakota Dallas TX |
12/2003 01/2007 12/2007 05/2008 |
Claims USMC POW, while he was imprisoned he states that
they broke both of his wrists, waited a couple of weeks for them to
heal, then broke them again.
quote
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Served
in the Coast Guard - 10 yrs, AFTER Vietnam - click for letter
NOT a SEAL quote
2008 - WALLACE FARRIER SERVICE IN SOUTH DAKOTA http://www.wallacesfarrier.com/
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| Walsh, Mike | Chandler, AZ | 01/2007 | http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=81077
Spiritual Life SURVIVORS: Janice and Mike Walsh of Chandler say their family has strong faith and has overcome many hardships.Laura Segall For the Tribune Chandler family holds fast to the light of Christ By Lawn Griffiths, Tribune December 23, 2006 The lighted nativity outside Jan and Mike Walsh’s home in northwest Chandler is the only one on their street this Christmas. "It’s part of our history," said Jan, who sets up the display each year to evince their faith, although what life has meted out to the Walshes would seem to otherwise foster bitterness. Jan underwent three abdominal surgeries and radiation treatment for cancer three years ago and has arthritis. Mike’s lower back is fused from surgeries from wounds suffered in Vietnam, where he was a prisoner of war for eight months. He recently had shoulder surgery and is awaiting more on the other shoulder. Their oldest daughter, Crystal, 33, suffered brain damage from a car crash in Tempe in 2001 and is tormented by pain, loss of hearing and concentration, and the end of careers in modeling and music. The family is working with the courts to give them legal relief, but Crystal’s medical recovery is far more daunting. ...Jan is a rush of stories of a woman who has gone headlong into life — a 46-year registered nurse who still talks of getting advanced degrees at 64, who recites long, inspirational poems that she wrote, who cries when she talks about what Mike endured in Vietnam. She speaks adoringly of her burly husband. "He’s an old redneck from Wyoming and cusses a blue streak, but he has a heart of gold," she said. She raises her voice when she says she is on the policymaking committee of the Brain Injury Association of Arizona and intends to lobby the Legislature for justice for people like her daughter whose life was forever changed by a drunken driver who went to prison. ... Yet they all draw from the survivor’s well of 58-year-old Mike’s Vietnam experience. As a soldier in an Army engineers unit, he cleared jungle for roads and bridges. In 1968, his group was attacked, and Mike was one of only five of the nearly 100 in the group to survive, she said. "He had the sense to drop the Caterpillar blade that he was driving and fall behind it when the shooting started," she said, crying. "After about an hour of that, he lost his hearing and he just screamed, ‘God, stop the shooting,’ and he did just that. He was just too scared to come out for about another hour." The rain stopped, "and the sun came through on all the dead and dying around him, and he was so scared." Mike came across a Buddhist shrine and prayed there and saw and heard angels, she said. A nonbeliever at the time, Mike said he was later baptized in the South China Sea by a chaplain after an Army buddy told him he wouldn’t get to heaven without it. "The old chaplain was out there doing it when this wave came along and knocked us all around," he said with a laugh. ...Mike’s childhood and Vietnam experience brought challenges early in the marriage. "He’d wake up terrorized and kicked me out of bed," she said, but gradually Mike’s nightmares went away. Jan says her family knows trouble. But she reads her Bible, prays and draws insight through her poetry. Jesus also came from humble and troubled beginnings, she noted, "so why not emulate him every chance we get?" Contact Lawn Griffiths by email, or phone (480) 898-6522 |
MOS
62E20. Crawler Tractor Operator. Discharged an E5 NOT a POW.
AWARDS AND DECORATIONS:
National Defense
SPS M-14
EXP M-16
Vietnam Campaign Medal
Vietnam Service Medal
4 Overseas bars
NO awards of Valor.
NO notes on his being a
"patient".
NO CIB
NO Purple Heart
While in Vietnam he was with the HHC
35th, 20th and 84th Engr Bn
and the 538th Engr Co
He was transferred to the reserves after Nam.
The
text of the clarification appearing on page A2 on Jan. 6 in the East
Valley Tribune and Scottsdale Tribune:
Clarification – In the Dec. 23 Tribune, a Page F1 article in the
Spiritual Life section should not have identified Mike Walsh of Chandler
as a prisoner of war in Vietnam for eight months. “His name does not
appear on the official
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| Walter, Charles Henry | . | 1999 | Claims POW | . | |
| Walters, Allen D. | Lexington, OH | again 11/2002 07/2003 |
Green Beret, POW escapee, Silver Star, secret ops. Claims Pentagon won't let him publish his book. |
At this URL http://alspeaks.net/experience.asp he writes: "12+ Years of service U.S. Army Special Forces. Leadership School, Instructor Technique and Presentation."
At this URL http://alspeaks.net/about.asp he says this: "My
first speaking experiences came as a member of the U.S. Army Special
Forces, where I provided leadership training to over 250 individuals at
a time." Records show E7. NO SILVER STAR. MOS include Combat Eng; Dozer Operator; Plt Sgt; Drill Sgt. ALL assignments include an Engineer unit. Served at Fort Leonard Wood, in Germany and in Nam. Military education included Combat Eng school and Drill Sgt School. Disabled/Retired. |
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| Walters, Frank | Believed to be Ohio | 08/2002 01/2003 |
Claims POWmid-60's. Has "papers"...tells how bad it was to be captured but doesn't like to talk about it much.... VFW member. | . | |
| Walters, Gary Lee | Phoenix, AZ | 1998 | Special Forces, 4 years captive | NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH the
honorable service of Navy Veteran Gary Walters, Hamburg, NY - USS Valdez |
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| Wanke, Fred | Cudahy, WI | 04/02 | Claimed Korea POW then Vietnam POW. USMC, rescued by SEALs. | Lives on Packard Ave. | |
| Warner, Samuel | . | . | Claims POW | . | |
| Warren,
Richard Wayne (used Jr - uses Sr now) |
Hattiesburg,
MS
2005 - Union Church MS |
# 1997 1999 2003 2005 |
Claims
25 yrs service - (actually claims 25 yrs, 9 months, 21 days). Claims
Special Forces, 2 tours, captured on 2nd. POW 70-73, (or SIX yrs - depending on WHO he told the tale to). 100% disability. Now has "minister's" license and preached the Word based on faith found in his captivity. Claims 3 PH, MOH, Special Forces. Married at least 5 times. Claims MSgt. ================= A middle aged man named Richard Wayne
Warren, Jr., who is properly listed .... on the phony list since
no evidence connecting him with any POW status whatsoever is recorded
anywhere, still maintains that he was a member of a 3 man recon patrol
into the Plan of Jars, Laos and the only survivor; taken prisoner on Jan
10, 1970 and held in Son Tay, some place called Ba Loi Dam, and
Briarpatch; then released in April 1973. ======= If this is the same guy, - I thought he was from
Oklahoma - one of his deacons came to the museum about him. I checked
all our sources, including the TDY lists for the White Star rotations
from 1959 to 1962) that listed 98% of all SF guys that had been in
Viet Nam/Laos/Thailand. He wasn't on any of the lists. The deacon that
came to the museum said that this guy organized a day for the
Laotians, the Meos to be exact. This tipped me off, because you do
not call Hmongs Meos. Using the term Meo as a honored title is
totally bogus as it is like us calling a black the N word. Anyway,
I said that to the deacon and he said this guy insisted that was their
name. At this ceremony, I guess the deacons contacted the local SF
Association chapter to surprise the pastor by bringing in his buddies.
The preacher/fake POW, as you can well imagine, went bezerk and no
one could figure out why. One of his stories is he was in Laos on
a recon team and he was the only Anglo there. They were caught in
an ambush and he was badly wounded in the stomach/intestine area and his
Hmong had to carry him all the way over to Viet Nam, as opposed to his
base camp. This guys didn't HASN'T LEARNED. KEEPS TELLING HIS TALE TO REAL FORMER POWS. .... Still gets 100%. Has attended POW PTSD group. No longer has POW license plates. Still claims retired Special Forces MSgt (not!). Claims 3 Purple Hearts (NOT) but he WAS in Nam. Dec 68- Nov 69. Bought some medals at V.A.! He is an abuser and he now claims as a veteran he cannot be made to pay child support. His house was purchased through "Veterans Home Purchase board", they are in bankruptcy because he has $200,000 in credit cards. |
Had
POW license plates in 1999 - have been revoked. Was a member of various
veterans/POW organizations and VA PTSD group as a POW. Past President of
Hattiesburg POW Chapter of American Ex-POWs. He burned Chapter records
and memorabilia after confrontation he was a fraud.
Wore the POW bracelet of Walter Moon - who was in the same camp he was! REAL date of birth 1945. Oft speak in churches to give "testimonials" of his experiences. Warren's phone # - 601-786-9536 ============== Service Number 14808xxx Dif between 71 AWOL and 77 discharge was his side trip to Canada. |
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| Watson, Eugene "Gene" T. | . | 1999 03/2007 |
Claims POW,
was "in a cage." Has VA POW ID card. |
Records indicate NO captivity - 10 yrs service, E-5, image Interp; Article 15 1975. Did earn 3 PH | |
| Watson, Patrick | Omak, WA | again, 09/2002 | POW, SF, covert, Rhodesia, claimed Native
American, now Mongol! 2002 - Marine, SOG, Army (gunship) helicopter pilot, Air Force Major, 5 1/2 yr POW..... dresses in fatigues, boots and gold leaf while grocery shopping. |
Active Duty July 1980 - Feb 1982. Discharged a PFC/E3. Only training: Unit Supply Spec Course. Awards: Army Service, Marksman/Rifle. No foreign service noted. | |
| Watson, Roger Elton | Hopkinsville, KY | 1984, 1998, still at it
05/2002 02/2003 |
READ
ALL ABOUT HIM STOLEN VALOR PAGES 519-521!!
The local newspaper will not print a retraction to the newspaper article they printed about Watson. |
EXPOSED
- he retired from the Ky Dept of Labor as a Disabled Veterans Outreach
Specialist at the end of Jan 2003. He no longer works at Ft Campbell.
STILL
TELLS GRANDIOSE TALES - STILL LIVES OUTSIDE FORT CAMPBELL, HOME OF 101ST
AIRBORNE!! He is NOT missed at the office.
NO MEDAL OF HONOR, NO DSC, NO BRONZE STAR FOR VALOR, NO SILVER STARS, NO SPECIAL FORCES, NO POW STATUS. E5 - NOT an officer. |
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| Watts, David "Dave" | . | 1999 | Claims POW | Stationed TX, NJ, Thailand, OK, NY, FL, OH, IL; no PH, NO MOH, NO captivity noted. | |
| Waybright, Dan | . | 03/2005 | Claims POW and retired FBI agent Sacramento branch. Claims that he was on the Oklahoma POW list. When asked why not on the PMSEA - he didn't know why, he gets a check every month. He also claims Purple Heart.. | . | |
| Webb, John Joseph | Holmes Avenue, Prospect Park, PA | 06/2003 | Article: Delaware County Daily
Times, Feb 28, 2003
Headline" Persistence patently pays off for former POW and inventor" "Fortitude helped a borough man survive and escape from being a prisoner of war in Vietnam.....Webb, 54, a disabled American veteran... Army's 199th Light Infantry Brigade as a "tunnel Rat"...Vietnam 1968-1972...member of the covert Experimental Military Unit of EMU with members of the Royal Australian Navy.....got shot down in Cambodia, tortured and held as a POW in Laos for about 6 months before escaping.... 145 pounds and went down to 78..... Purple Heart, Bronze Star, Silver Star and Distinguished Flying Cross. |
Records indicate he WAS awarded: National Defense, 3 overseas bars, Good Conduct Medal, CIB, Vietnam Service, Vietnam Campaign, Republic of Vietnam Campaign Ribbon, Bronze Star, Purple Heart, Air Medal w/1OLC, Expert M-14, ACFT Crew badge. MOS was 52B20, 11B20, 67N2F, 67N20. He served with 68th Sig Bn, 298th Sig Plt, 134th Aslt Hcptr, 1st Acft Maint, 135th Aslt Hel. NO DSC, NO Silver Star, NO POW Medal, NO POW captivity noted, NO 199th LIB, NO EMU. E5 at discharge. | |
| Webb, Nicholas R. | Florida | 08/2004 | Claims really listed as MIA. No records of him exist becuase of the operations he di and the fact he "changed" identities. Claims Marine, 1968 timeframe. Claims "Purple Flag of Valor" unit. |
Prelim
investigation found: WEBB NICHOLAS R AR E04 11C2O |
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| Webster, Steve | . | 1999 | Claims POW | . | |
| Weeks, Kelly Eugene | Chicago Dallas |
1978 2004 |
Supervisor at Fox and Jacobs Construction out of Dallas, TX stated he was a former Army helo pilot who was captured as a POW in Vietnam. He also stated he had received several medals from the Army. He tells a rather lengthy tale about being a POW and what went on at the POW camp. He was last thought to be working as a housing inspector for the city of Dallas. | . | |
| Weekes, Wally | . | 1999 | Claims POW | . | |
| Weikel, Donald S. | MA | 11/2002
07/2004 |
2004 - Here we go again: ==================================
Boston Herald
07/15/04
By TOM FARMER A
Groton man who claims he escaped from a Vietnamese prison camp and
returned to combat where he earned a Silver Star, Bronze Star and
three Purple Hearts is an apparent fraud whose case has been referred
to the FBI based on a Boston Herald investigation of his fantastic
accounts.
Donald S. Weikel,
56, also allegedly used his fabricated heroics to obtain a POW license
plate from the Registry of Motor Vehicles as well as citations from
the state Legislature and the town of Groton........
============================== Teenager:
War `hero' betrayed my trust |
SEE 1st ARTICLE and actual records
1/9 says NOT with unit 24 months. Only 10.
EXPOSED |
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| Weiss, David William "Doc" | St Paul, MN | 1986 1999 |
Paper: MINNEAPOLIS STAR AND TRIBUNE
Headline: 13 years after the war, Vietnam vets bask
in welcome
Date: 19860614 06/14/86
Section: NEWS
Page: 01A
Edition: METRO
"... Dave Weiss wore no uniform, but his cap
announced that he was a POW. "You paid for all of us," Cole
told him, giving him a hug. "There's no way we can repay
you." Strangers a moment before, they put their arms around each
other and joined the first Minnesota contingent in the parade.
Weiss, a registered nurse at
the University of Minnesota Hospital, was a
Special Forces medic in 1967 when he was captured by the Viet Cong. He
spent 28 days locked in a tiger cage before escaping. "I was
going to go on a fishing trip this weekend," he said. "But
this was too important. It's like when I went to the black wall (the
Vietnam War
Memorial in Washington, D.C.), I was overwhelmed -
there were so many of us."
Suddenly, he was interrupted
by a big, exuberant kiss - from his wife, Mary,
who had dashed from the side of Grand Av. He grinned and she dashed
back to her place at the curb. "Oh, it's
going to be a good day for him," she said
later. "It will be for all of them."..."
Still claims POW |
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| West,
Clarence R. aka "Skip" |
Palm Desert, CA | 04/2004 | Claims POW, Air Force Cross and every Air Force award below that. Claims to have been a PJ rescuing pilots left and right and that's how he was captured and held as POW. Claims he attacked his guard with a knife and escaped. | . | |
| West, Harold | Grew up Long Island | 03/2003 | Claims held 1963-1972. Age 58. | . | |
| West, Richard A | Columbus NE | 1999 |
3 months POW |
POW claims could not be substantiated by Columbus Police Department NPRC search | |
| Westerberg, Bob | . | 1999 | Claims POW | . | |
| Wheeler, Michael | Overland Pk, KS | 1999 | Claims POW | . | |
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Whelan, Bill aka Richard W. Whelan |
Ft. Carson CO 1997 |
1997 07/2002 09/2005 |
Still at it. Claims
POW. Original
stories told to REAL ex-pow.
Claims SEVEN Purple Hearts. Claims his service record would never reflect that he was in combat was because he was on a covert operation in Cambodia, and that the information was classified. |
Has used a Reserve Colonel, Jim Singleton
to perpetuate the fraud. Perpetrated a fraud on a church study
group.
His list of decorations is as
follows, coming directly from the information received from St. Louis: However, as for being a POW, his record does not reflect it. Seems to have been an ADMIN OFFICER, Worked in Food Service, taught leadership school and was an Aide de Camp to MG Gleszer.
"We have now received a great deal of
feed back from members of Whelan's regiment - 327th 101st ABN
including an officer that rose to three star rank. No one has
any recollection of Whelan being taken POW and or any Black Operations
run from the 101st into Cambodia."
...The Only facts or feedback that are
impt. to this issue is simply that no one who responded knew of
subject's capture and his being consider a POW. Nor do they
recall the incident when he was missing and or considered a POW.
As I told you in a previous message, there would be records of such
an event both in the Morning Reports and After Actions Reports.
You have to realize that any POW and particularly those who escaped
would be debriefed with great attention and care. I believe
you have been told that there is no government record of any
escapees from Cambodia.
If he is now telling you he can't recall
the time frame and that it may of occurred during the 3rd or 4th
tour. I don't have his records, but I believe you when you
report that they show
11 months in country. That of
course does not and cannot add up to four (4) tours. Did you
or can you ask him what unit he was with when the event took place
even if he can't recall the timeframe. I have been told by
those who were captured and particularly those who escaped, that
they remember in detail all and every thing about the ordeal.
SJ, USARA |
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| White, Charlie | Martinsburg, WV | 03/2004 | Claims Navy SEAL, POW | . | |
| White, David | NY | . | POW 2x, Navy Cross 2x, PH, SS, SEAL | dob 10/49 | |
| White, Ronnie Joe | Quapaw, OK | 11/2003 | Claims POW | Actual Army, Vietnam | |
| White,
Tom aka White, Tommy Silas aka White Tommie S. aka White, Tommy S aka Silas, Tom aka Silas,Tommy aka "Commadore Gone Country" |
Branson, MO CA, LA, NY |
10/2003 04/2005 |
Claim former Vietnam vet
and POW released on 8-23-73 Claims former Commadore, claims penned "Easy" and "Lady (You bring me up)". Purported to be under contract for fall show. 04/2005: Claims "Vietnam Vet" (there
in the "late 60's") and has new
show in Branson - a tribute to Charlie Pride.
http://celebritybooking.net/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=13 "... Also, the artist has been married for nearly
20 years and is the spokesperson and sponsor for, 'Cyber Search for
Missing Children' but, will travel or consider relocations as he
continues to have their support as well...." |
NOT A FORMER POW ACTUAL
RECORDS
From: "George xxxxx "
Subject: Re: The Commodores
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003
He is not a writer on either of the songs mentioned - at least not the versions recorded by the Commodores. I can't say for certain if he has ever played with the group but if he did it was as a support band member and not as a member of the group. ============================== ... I have been unable to find him listed as a
member of the Commodores (they say he was under-age at the time) and
Lionel Richie is credited with writing these songs.
From: xxxxxx@lionelrichie.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Information Request
Best, ===================== Cyber Search for Missing Children DENIES statements made about "spokesperson and sponsor" stating the only contact was a solicitation to use a piece of music, and cancellation of a concert due to "heart problems..." NO money, donations, support have ever been received. He is NOT a spokesperson. |
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| Whitlock, Max "Terry" | Canton, OH | 1999 2000 |
4x POW-6x MOH | *** SEE VVA | |
| Whitman, William N. | PA | 04/01 Deceased |
Claimed Korea, Nam POW, Blue Angels, Carrier Pilot, 22 yrs | 19 years, no pilot, no POW, no Korea | |
| Wiant, James E | FL | 05/2007 |
Claims went in as enlisted and retired as a lieutenant
colonel, helicopter pilot. Spent 5 years in Vietnam.
Claims eighteen months as a POW. Captured in 1968.
Escaped. They had him at the bottom
of deep red clay pit full of water. It was right up to his
chin. Claims he reached up and pulled the guard down into the
water, climbed out and ran into the jungle. Finally came into a
clearing. A voice shouted stop and he claims he stopped.
Then he was asked questions about who was president and he said
he didn't know cause he had been a prisoner. They asked
him where he was from and he said Winter Park, Florida. One of
the army guys shouted back that he was from Sanford, Florida.
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Served
USMC 1960-1979. Discharged an E6. MOS 1345 Engineer Equipment Operator |
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| Wiggins,
Herman Phillip
aka Wiggins, GYSGT Herman P Jr |
Corona, CA
Henderson NV |
12/2003 03/2004 04/2005 |
Claims captured
May 1969. The only American with 200 ARVN, marched 3 days before Cobra
gunships shot up the column, he was the only one left unharmed. States
he escaped and evaded for 11 more days and was found by an Army patrol.
Claims captured in I Corps with 1stBn, 3rd Rgt, 1st ARVN Div, remained
in NAM after till Nov 69. Claims MACV
Also claims police officer in San Diego (except he was in prison during THAT time). ============== Claims Army Airborne School, Amphib Recon School, Basic SCUBA, Navy 2nd Class Diver School, BUDS/Navy SEAL Training, Army Panger and Army Jungle Warfare School. Claims: ... while serving as the recon Tack Advisor with the 1st BN, 3rd Reg, 1st INF DIV, Army of the Republic of S Vietnam, GYSgt Wiggins was captured by an NVA patrol, held as a POW for 3 days, escaped, survived and gathered vital intelligence information for 11 days and was repatriated...... ======================= Claims he was on several secret missions that all so secret the records were destroyed, "... I was in the Navy brig at Portsmouth for murder when this Marine Col. Steely eyed , built like a rock never smiled got all of us serving life sentences and offered us an opportunity to run special ops into North Vietnam , Laos, Cambodia etc etc etc. if we were killed NO one ever heard of us, we just disappeared from the earth, if we made it we would be pardoned "...... |
Served
with MCPERSNAVY ADV group, |
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Wigutow, Martin (NMI) aka Wigathow, Marty aka Martin D. Wigutow aka Martim M. Wigutow |
Slymar, CA | 2000 07/2002 09/2006 |
Nam POW 3.5 yrs, covert ops, served at 16, Silver Star
in Korea, officer in Nam. Claims records burned. |
St. Louis could locate no military records. (twice requested) | |
| Wilbur, John | NY | 05/2006 05/2008 |
Captive comrades
SARATOGA SPRINGS - John Wilbur is looking forward to
meeting U.S. Sen. John McCain when he visits the Spa City next week.
But chances are good that they won't be talking about old times; the memories of life as a Vietnam prisoner of war aren't happy ones. Wilbur joined the service in 1964 and went to Southeast Asia with a Navy SEAL team as an underwater demolition expert. "When I was in high school, my parents gave me a chemistry set," he said, laughing. "I loved to blow things up. My mother, I can hear her now yelling down the cellar steps at me, 'Bring that out in the garage!'Ÿ" In Wilbur's line of work, danger was never very far away, resulting in a multitude of wounds from shrapnel and booby traps. On one occasion, he went back to help a fallen comrade and was captured by the Viet Cong. "You didn't leave anybody," he said. His military heritage goes all the way back to the Revolutionary War, where his great-great-great grandfather, Job, fought for America's independence. Wilbur's father, Robert G. Wilbur, was a Marine in World War I. Inside his second-story Broadway apartment, photos of military aircraft adorn a bedroom wall, and a loft ladder is filled with models of old clipper ships. He also has a collection of antique biplanes for his grandchildren to play with, but the one thing missing is any semblance of self-importance. "I have medals, but I put them all away," he said. "I just thank the good Lord that I'm still here." Wilbur had a brief encounter with McCain during their brutal ordeal as POWs. McCain, a Navy flier, was shot down in October 1967 and was well-known because his father was the admiral who commanded the war in the Pacific.
"He looked you straight in the eyes, as I
remember it," Wilbur said. "He had charisma. When you
met him, you knew he was special."
Over Wilbur's desk is a famous painting of an
elderly man blessing the bread he's about to eat.
"I like that old guy," Wilbur said.
"I pray on a prayer line for about 150 people a day. When you
think about somebody else, I think it's better for you.
It's not 'boo-hoo, poor me.'Ÿ"
In Vietnam, he prayed a lot, too.
"We were in real bad circumstances," he
said. "They used to beat our feet. You eat bugs, you do
anything you can. I was really thin. You could see through me. You
could count all my ribs. "When you think you're going to die
any day, you just live the next day and thank God you're
alive."
In a memoir, "How the POWs Fought Back,"
McCain told how important it was for POWs to keep their minds
occupied.
"You keep your mind going," Wilbur said.
"If you don't, you get all messed up. You have to have
discipline so you don't fight amongst yourselves, and you have to
be strong."
Wilbur said he prays for U.S. soldiers in Iraq
because he knows what they're going through. The desert is far
different from Southeast Asian jungles, but the physical and
emotional shocks of unfamiliar surroundings are the same.
"Your whole body takes time to change," he said. "It's not easy. I wish there was more support for the people fighting for our country right now."
Wilbur was among the fortunate prisoners that the
North Vietnamese released early. McCain was offered freedom, too,
but he wouldn't go because he realized it was a propaganda ploy.
Releasing him would have made the Viet Cong appear humane, when in
fact, they held American prisoners in unbearable conditions.
McCain was an officer and felt that it was wrong to
go home when soldiers captured much earlier weren't given the same
opportunity. Had he left, the North Vietnamese could have used it
against remaining U.S. soldiers, saying he didn't care about their
welfare, a devastating psychological tactic.
Instead, McCain suffered through all kinds of
tortuous conditions before finally gaining his release after 5½
years of imprisonment.
"I don't think he'll remember me, but he was
one helluva man," Wilbur said of McCain. "I'd love to
meet him."
McCain is speaking at a noon luncheon on May 20 at
the Saratoga Springs City Center. The event is organized by
Sweeney for Congress. Tickets cost $150 per person. For
information, call 1-202-302-7678.
The Saratoga County Board of Supervisors has
arranged for a display of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Moving
Wall from June 8-12 at Shenantaha Creek Park in Malta."
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Dear Capt. McGrath,
We found out yesterday that John Wilbur lied and ran
a correction in today's paper. I yanked the article
off our Web site, too.
Thank you for the POW Web site link.
He showed discharge papers and was believable, so we
fell for the lie. We won't be taken again, and the Web info
will be a big help.
As for you, I was a little girl during the war and never learned much
about it until I started reading oral histories of that time. It's
very late, but I want to say Welcome Home, and thank you.
Connie Jenkins |
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| Wilds,
Rick aka Rick Wiles |
Columbia, MO | 02/2003 03/2003 FIVE witnesses
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Retired Navy, 26 years, only made E-7. Was doing OK with me until he said he had been a POW for 13 months. I say, "Up front, I don't believe you. Give me your name and service number and I will check it. If I'm wrong I will apologize and buy you a beer." I took the name from what he (the phony) wrote on a piece of paper. Obviously he has something to hide if he won't even give the correct name." |
03/17/2003 dear sirs i don't know who put my name under this rick wilds but i have never been a pow and have never said i was. now that this on your web page it has affected my good name, i want it off there because i will have my lawyer take it up with someone in your headgauters. i never knew this website ever existed till a freind of my called me today to tell me about my name being on here. i have a good ideal who has done this to me but i can't prove it. i would appreciate your help on this matter. i am retired from the us navy and the only ship i was on in nam was trhe uss hancock cva-19. respectfully rick wiles.
You will be pleased to
note that as of aprox 2200hrs 20 Mar 2003 the membership of Richard
Wiles in the U. S. Military Vets MC was officially terminated. His
Colors were recovered by the issuing chapter president at that time.
We clean our own messes!
Thank you for your
assistance in this, it has been a real learning experience.
Diver
National Vice President US Military Vets MC |
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Retired Navy, 26 years, E-7. POW for 13 months. Riverine Patrol.... ===== I've met this man and you have his name spelled wrong. It's Rick Wiles. He has made the same claims to me. ===== He has applied for a charter to the United States Military Veterans Motorcycle club. (If granted, he would be President) Note: Have heard from the USMVMC. Once Wiles/Wilds
fairy tales are confirmed false - he will be banned from the
organization. |
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| Wilkerson,
T. aka Wilkenson, David |
Tacoma, WA | 11/01 | Claims USAF MSgt retired, held and escaped from Laos after captivity March 70-Aug 70 | OLD email <Twilkerson550@netscape.com> | |
| Will, Eugene II | . | . | Claims POW | . | |
| Williams, Dave | . | 1999 | Claims POW | . | |
| Williams, John David | . | 05/2006 |
Claims to have been a downed naval aviator and was
captured and was a POW at the Hanoi Hilton. He also
claimed that he escaped around 1971 or so. He also claimed
to be good friends with Sen. John McCain and they recently attended a
reunion together in California.
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DISCHARGED PRIOR TO COMPLETION OF
RECRUIT TRAINING.
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| Williams, Murry Lamar | UT | 08/2004 |
Claims Medic with the the 1st Cavalry under Lt. Col
Moore. Claims army helicopter pilot and
was shot down, captured spending a year or so as a POW. Wears US Army
baseball cap with Army Senior Aviator wings and a 1st Cavalry patch
pin. Claims exposed to Agent Orange and had memory loss Whenever
a date or something was not quite the same as his previous telling he
would blame it on the "memory loss" . ... doctor had
written that he had stated he was a POW and had memory loss from
his exposure to Agent Orange. Claims his two sons were Navy
Officers, one of which was a Blue Angel.
Works for CR England Trucking based out of Salt Lake
City. 49 years old
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| Willis, Clarence Jr. | . | 02/2004 | Claims 5 yr POW, shot down as a door gunner, Army Special Forces. | Records
indicate "NO RECORD OF POW". MOS 11B2P and 36K2P. E4. Served 11 months in NAM. Served in Thailand. |
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| Wills II, Edgar | Johnston Atoll | 1999
2002 |
Claimed Army Medic/POW for 5 years
AND AGAIN! |
St. Louis stated "There is no record of SSg Will ever having been a prisoner of War" actual - Helicopter repair/tech Inspector, UH1 Crew Chief. NO PH. | |
| Wilson, Don Howard | . | 11/2003 | Claims held in Laos, escaped. Statements made as a gusts speaker Veterans Day 2003. | When confronted - admitted he lied. Falsified DD214. Records indicate service in FRANCE. | |
| Wilton, Robert "Bobby" | . | 1999 | Claims POW | . | |
| Windes, Tommy Lewis | Virginia Beach, VA | 12/2002 02/2004 03/2004 |
Claims NAVY POW in cage 34 days. Rescued by Marines. Claims 3 Purple Hearts and a POW medal. | Ham Radio Call
sign: KI4COJ prelim: Navy E6, Aviation Electronics tech Served USAF March 69 - Aug 76 SGT Navy June 78 - December 88 AT1 NO Purple Heart, NO POW Medal With 315 AMS Sq Phan Rang and 377 CAMS TanSon Nhut Oct 71 - Feb 72. Tommy Windes now works for the US Department of State and is stationed in Africa -- windestl@state.gov |
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| Winsett, Edwin H |
St. Louis, MO Blytheville, AR O'Fallon, MO |
multiple reports 08/2002 03/2008 |
Claims 3 tours, POW - hung by fishhooks through his hands. "Chewed" threw his bamboo cage, broke guards neck to escape after 29 days. Green Beret Captain, Sniper, SEAL. Hangs with &qu | ||