Heroes or Villains?

INTRODUCTION

CLAIMING VIETNAM PRISONER OF WAR:

V V A - Claims by members of  Vietnam Veterans of America

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Reported Claims of:
Medal of Honor, Other than Vietnam POWs, Son Tay Raiders, DSC, DFC, Purple Heart, Silver Star, Bronze Star, Navy Cross, SEALS, Rangers, Pilots, Special Forces, Green Berets, Combat, Vietnam Helicopter Pilots, Flying Tigers, DOUBT EVERYTHING, Don't Encourage and more.

APOLOGIES AND CLARIFICATIONS

Individuals reported as of 09/2011
CLAIMS AS NOTED 
#  =  on list over 14 years

All claims highlighted in lavender may be eligible for prosecution under U.S. Code Title 18  or under the  STOLEN VALOR ACT signed into law Dec 20, 2006.

Note: The names listed in the next pages have made VARIOUS or multiple claims that cannot be substantiated or have been proven FALSE. These individuals are IN ADDITION TO those investigated and named in the book STOLEN VALOR.

Those with a "LINK" have records, news articles, pictures or tales posted.
All names are first checked here  http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/ if POW claims are made. 

Comments in GREEN are from information contained in military records (or lack of military records) obtained
through FOIA when requested THROUGH the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis.

THOSE CLAIMING MEDAL OF HONOR
NOTE: In 1996 HLI Lordship Industries (at the time, the OFFICIAL USG contractor for the Medal of Honor) admitted selling THREE HUNDRED unauthorized medals for $75.00 each from 1991-1994. They were fined $80,000. NOT ALL of those medals have been recovered. Offenders in possession of an unauthorized medal can be arrested, fined ( The maximum fine for a criminal offense is $250,000, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Section 3571(b)(3) ) and jailed (up to a year). It is the only military medal that CANNOT be bought, sold, bartered, traded, collected, auctioned, exchanged.... EVERY Medal of Honor is awarded by act of Congress. Less than 120 REAL Medal of Honor recipients are alive today.

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Name                                       Location Date Reported ALL Claim POW or MIA and then some Actual Records Indicate/Notes
Nabors, Tom . 09/2006

DON'T MISS THIS TALE

http://rachelrebibo.com/rachel/wyoming/tom_nabors_1.html

QUOTE: 

Tom Nabors

Tom Nabors is a full-blooded Sioux Indian and Vietnam Vet who was a POW in Cambodia; right there I feel like you can grasp the intensity of the stories this man has to tell. ...
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For someone with such a violent, painful history I can honestly tell you that Tom is a true gentle soul. It’s hard to believe when he tells you what it feels like to kill somebody, or how he was forced to practice cannibalism in the POW camp, but ...

unquote

QUOTE 

Tom Nabors is not his legal given name and there was plenty of personal information and artifacts which verified his story. I chose not to share all of this with everyone as Tom disclosed it to me in confidence. Obviously, I will not be posting private information about people on the internet. ...... 

Posted by: Rachel | September 6, 2006 12:35 PM

UNQUOTE

NOT A POW BY ANY NAME

CALL THE PENTAGON AND ASK

PAO LARRY GREER  -  703-699-1100 EXT 1169

NADEN, RON . 11/2008 STORY AND AFTERMATH no military service
Nadler, Sheldon . . Claims POW .
aka Nash, John (Jack)
aka John F. Nash
aka Jack "Dusty" Rhodes
aka JackSlim42
aka CWO40873

real name:
Mckean, Lionel Tucker

Richmond, Charlottesville,
Greenwood, Campbell County,  VA

Lancaster PA

12/2002


click here for the REST OF THE STORY
on  LIONEL TUCKER MCKEAN

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Naugle, Raymond . 11/2002 Claims POW at Hanoi Hilton .
NEAL, RONALD 

AKA RONALD DAVID NEAL

MI/TN 03/2009 Claims POW status while serving with the 101st Abn Div in Vietnam 68-69. He has phonied up his discharge papers to include the Silver Star, "Jump Wings" and other awards. In reality he served in Germany as a US with Special Services. He has cancer now and at the benefit here in Michigan he showed up with his POW cap and everything again  where he tells everyone he was a POW and got all his bones broke while in a Tiger cage. 


NOW IN TENNESSEE

ACTUAL RECORDS

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Neel, Ralph . 2000 Claims POW .
NELMS, Douglas Wesley

 

Mooresville, IN

 

09/2010   
Normally introduced as a former Navy SEAL . Has a Tattoo with his SEAL team's emblem. Says his number  was 900 and changed to 904 later.  He displayed and wore this shirt as proof he was a SEAL.

A summary of Mr. NELMS’ military records has been received from the National Personnel Records Center (NPRC St. Louis, MO), and there is an entry which indicates he was assigned to the Naval Special Warfare Center in Coronado, CA, for attendance at Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) Training. Since DOUGLAS WESLEY NELMS is not listed in the SEAL Database as a successful graduate of the training program, he either voluntarily left the training program (Drop On Request or “DOR”), or he was involuntarily removed from the training program for failure to meet performance qualifications.

There is just no way for me to determine whether his departure from the training was voluntary or involuntary. 

When a man is sent to the BUD/S course, the assignment is a PERMANENT CHANGE OF STATION or “PCS”, rather than one which is denoted as Temporary Duty while Under Instruction or “TEMDUINS”. Since the inquiry sent to the NPRC included a specific request for all of Mr. NELMS’ duty assignments, his PCS transfer to the Naval Special Warfare Center for BUD/S is specifically listed in their response. Listing this as a PCS transfer does not, in any way, suggest or imply that he successfully completed that course of instruction. It only indicates that his transfer was not a temporary one.

PCS orders mean that whether a man successfully graduates or he fails the course of instruction, he has no ties to his previous command, and he will be permanently assigned to his next/new duty station. Successful graduates of the BUD/S training program will, of course, continue in the next stop in the SEAL training sequence, while those who fail BUD/S training or who voluntarily quit will be transferred to a new command somewhere in the regular fleet.

I can once more state conclusively that although he was a student in the SEAL training program, DOUGLAS WESLEY NELMS NEVER COMPLETED SEAL training, and he is not now, nor was he ever a Navy SEAL, a Navy UDT “Frogman”, a member of any Naval Combat Demolition Unit (NCDU), or a member of the Naval Amphibious Scouts & Raiders (S&R).

Respectfully,

Steve Robinson RM2(SEAL)
USN 1970-1978
SEAL Team ONE
Inshore Undersea Warfare Group ONE
Defense Analyst – Soviet Threat specialization 1981-1993
UDT-SEAL Association - Member
POW Network Board of Directors
Naval Special Warfare Archives - SOF Analyst/Contributing Journalist
Disabled American Veterans - Life Member
FORMER Special Investigator - SEAL Authentication Team
CyberSEALs.org - Webmaster
Author - "NO GUTS, NO GLORY - Unmasking Navy SEAL Imposters"

Nelson, Robert A. Ludlow, KY 10/01 Claims held 6-8 months, escaped, covert ops, held Hanoi Hilton, jag type clerk and was shot down (take your pick) Born 1951 - Records indicate  NO Foreign Service.  All time in KY, Ohio or TX. July 70-Nov 70 and May 71 to Sept 72.
Nesmith, James
aka MAJOR Nesmith
. 09/2000 Claims POW - article on him [in a religious publication]...seems he 'visualized' playing golf during his 7 years in [cages] in NVN...did so well that he dropped about 20 strokes after return...
Major James Nesmith is a one page 'reading', without attribution, in the book 'God's Little Devotional Bible For Women', titled 'Visualization' and is opposite/part of 'Reading 241, August 29'.
Copyright @ 1998 by Honor Books, Inc., P.O. Box 55388, Tulsa, OK 74155 and phone 918/496-9007.
NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH REAL ARMY RANGER  JAMES NESMITH in Vancouver, WA //  Washougal, WA
Newcomb, Tony O.
aka DAVID O NEWCOMB
COLONIAL HEIGHTS, VA  
VIRGINIA BEACH, VA
10/2005

12/2008

Claims to be a U.S. Army veteran who was held for 9 years in Vietnam . He tells tales of constant torture at the hands of his captors. He says he had his fingernails and toenails pulled out several times. He also claims to have been sprayed with agent-orange by his own people before his capture. He claims to have received a section 8. He also says he was a convicted felon who has recently had his VA benefits pulled and is fighting to get them back. 

Name :  DAVID O NEWCOMB
Service :  ARMY
Service Component : 
Pay Grade :  E-3
Military Specialty :  0062E2O
Home of Record :  Unknown

62E
  CRAWLER TRACTOR OPERATOR

Newell, Jim . 1998 Claims POW .
Newkirk, Charles UT . Claims POW deceased
Nichols, Stanley H Bend OR
Green Valley AZ
 SFO Airport CA

1998
multiple reports
USN, Korean War POW, USMC, CIA, Air America, Vietnam POW In COMA 6/2001, STILL receiving queries re POW status.
Nicholson, Donald R "Nick" OHIO multiple

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EXPOSED - Pleads GUILTY to Federal Charges- SENTENCED Aug '00
Nickel, Frederick . 02/2005
Claims to have been USN Commander, and backseater in F-111. States that while a prisoner, he would wake up and find rats on his chest.
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Nickerson, Chester ME # Claims POW .
Niemeier, William Charles

Niemeier, William
aka "Wild Bill"

Pittsburg, PA
Osceola, MO area
02/2005
05/2005
04/2006
06/2006
07/2006
02/2005 -  He is originally from Pittsburgh Pa. Claims to be a Navy Combat Veteran. States he was a POW for 3 years. He says he flew A-6 Intruders, was a "Wild Weasel" was a graduate of Officers Candidate School, was a Navy Seal, and had to shoot a 14 year old Vietnamese boy to escape after he was shot down. Claims he ate bugs and crocodile eggs in Vietnam.

Claims he was on the Forrestal and the Enterprise when the big fires occurred. ".... was covered in Purple-K from head to toe and it was all sticky and dyed him purple" He said that JP-4 was really hot stuff". Claims he had to fly off a carrier in a typhoon. Claims he crashed 3 aircraft, and walked away from all three.

05/2005  - Claims ex-POW, Navy Veteran. Claims he was a POW for 3 years. Claims he flew A-6 Intruders, was a "Wild Weasel",  graduate of Officers Candidate School, Navy Seal, and had to shoot a 14 year old Vietnamese boy to escape after he was shot down. Claims stationed in Hawaii, and Guam. 
Claims Annapolis Graduate. He was ordered to fly off a Carrier in a Typhoon. Was at a Base called Son Li or Tan Li when it came under attack by the Vietcong. Also claims  of being the third largest Drug Dealer on the Island of Maui during his time at Barber's Point Hawaii.

2006 - Latest -   he had to do a "heart massage" on a guy in his unit who had his chest blown open. How can you do that while flying an A-6?

While he was in the service his car ran on J-p 4  { jet fuel] all the time!!

06/2006 - "But it didn't help to have the canopy of the A-6 Intruder peel back, and take off the front part of my helmet. ....  explain how the canopy came off! "It was from those thousands of AK-47 rounds being fired at me from the ground!"

07/2006- 

Bill is at it again [Bill Niemeier]. He is now claiming he was a Wing Commander. There is no record of him being a POW  because he was working "Black OPs and the records are sealed to this day. He said he went on bombing missions in Laos.  He  lost the end of his left index finger when he "didn't give the Vietcong the answer they wanted to hear".

How's Hawaii and Memphis TN for a nice tour?

NO VIETNAM. He was an Aviation apprentice.

NOT A SEAL. NOT a POW. 

REAL RECORDS
Works for St. Clair County.

Nipper, Harry

Claims Virginia
tales in Menlo, Sanford, CA
May be cross country traveling.

FL

NY

 

11/2002

05/2011

06/2011

09/2011

11/2011

11/29/2011

All info provided, address, job, dispatcher, etc seem false. 18 wheeler could not be found. 

NO MILITARY RECORDS FOUND ANYWHERE 05/13/03 letter from NPRC

Nishimori, Yutaka “Bruce”  MN 10/2009
http://fairmontsentinel.com/page/content.detail/id/506088.html
 
http://www.lakeviewfuneralhome.net/?p=893
 
Yutaka “Bruce” Nishimori, 60, of Fairmont, MN

Memorial  service for Yutaka “Bruce” Nishimori, 60, of Fairmont, MN, will be 11:00 A.M. Tuesday, October 13, at the  Lakeview Funeral Home in Fairmont.  Burial of ashes will follow with full miltary honors by the Lee C. Prentice American Legion and the Martin County V.F.W. Post 1222 at Lakeside Cemetery in Fairmont.  ... Yutaka Bruce Nishimori was born on April 24, 1949 in Santa Maria, CA, the son of Tadinori and Kimiye Nishimori.  He grew up in Santa Maria and graduated from high school in 1967.  He also attended Santa Barbara Business College.  Bruce entered the U.S. Air Force in October of 1968 and served three tours during the Vietnam War and was also a prisoner of war.  He was honorably discharged in June of 1983. ...

NEVER A POW
Nix, Luther Duane PA, FL. GA, NC 05/2007 Claims POW. Also claims to have the Distinguished Service Cross, Silver Star, Soldiers Medal, POW Medal, Purple Heart and several other awards. Travels the Pow Wow circuit on the east coast. He is scheduled to be the arena director at Griffin Georgia Pow Wow in May Served Army, June 26, 1978 - Feb 19, 1981. Served in Korea in 1980.
Nixon, Martin Clyde Rogers AR 04/02
05/02
Claims Prisoner of War, Silver Star, Special Forces. Led POW rescue attempt. VFW member. May have VA POW care! records requested
Nobella, Ed
aka Ed Martinez
CA . Claims POW .
Noble, Jimmy MN . Claims POW .
Noel, Marvin J. Greenville, SC 01/2008
02/2008
Claims to be a retired LTCol and was shot down and captured in Viet Nam. He was moved every few weeks and after 13 months was traded to US forces for an important Vietnamese person. Until the last few years he hasn't been able to talk about it (with tears in his eyes).

.....  Invites all honorably discharged and retired veterans and spouses to join them at the Ole Times Buffet on January 15 at 6:30 PM. For dinner (pay as you go) and to hear Marvin Noel a Vietnam POW speak... 

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http://www.macon.com/197/story/248855.html

Dear Mr. Rector...You are welcome to use this letter as a letter to the editor.
Reference: 1-27-08, "Years later, answers come..."
 
No man named Marvin Noel was ever with any one of us, the real surviving 661 POWs of the Vietnam War, nor is he known by the Department of Defense in this regard.  The 3,797 MIAs ( to include all POWs) is on the Department of Defense official web site at the following address: http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/pmsea/files.htm
 
Mr. Noel is not listed.  You and the readers of your fine paper are owed an apology from this fraud.

Sincerely,
Captain John M. McGrath, USN (Ret)
Monument, Colorado

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02/2008-  I spoke to him, still claims pilot, LtCol, retired 1987 after 30 years (reserves).. The reason there is no record is: He was CIA and the mission is still classified. No medals or awards were given. Not even his family knows. I told him if he would give me his serial number, this could be cleared up in a few days. He declined saying "his little brother was sick with terminal cancer in Michigan and he didn't have time for this petty stuff."
No man by the name of Marvin Noel was ever with any one of us, the real surviving 661 POWs of the Vietnam War, nor is he known by the Department of Defense in this regard.  The real POWs are all listed among the 3,797 names on the Dod official web site at:
http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/pmsea/files.htm
 
This guy is a "wannabe." Tell this creep to get lost.  He is listed as a fraud at the following web site:
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies1030.htm
 
Mike McGrath
POW 5 years 8 months
www.nampows. org
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ST LOUIS COULD LOCATE NO MILITARY RECORD BASED ON FULL NAME, DATE OF BIRTH, RETIREMENT CLAIMS AND OTHER IDENTIFIERS.

Norris, Richard Perry

aka Dick Norris

Last know to be in the vicinity of West Manchester, Ohio. 2/2001
11/2005
12/2005
SVN, POW 6 months, escaped

2005 - He claims to have been held in Laos along with 32 other POWs for 8 months until rescued by 2 marine choppers and half the POWs were killed...He claims to have been awarded the Silver Star. .and now is saying that after many years of waiting, He and other POWs will each be given $250,000.00 for what they went through... he claims the USA has been withholding this compensation all these years...

Tracfone # (419) 551-9007

OH Vehicle License # DOY 4768

Tan – 2 Door Blazer - Rusted & rear window is broken out 

ACTUAL RECORDS


Arrested Friday, January 6, 2006 at 4:30 am by the Williams County Sheriff’s Department. He was arrested for 2 warrants. One from Bryan Municipal Court (Williams County) for failure to comply with a court order & one from Defiance Municipal Court (Defiance County) for failure to appear. He is being held at the Corrections Center of Northwest Ohio (CCNO).

Norman, Donald E. Nashville, TN 11/2003
10/2004
Claims POW -  Seen 10/17/04 at the VA hospital in Nashville, TN. Still claims POW status for 2 years in Vietnam after serving 6 years. .
Norman, John Lester WI 05/2005

John Lester Norman
 
11 JUNE 2005
 
1200 Hours Eastern Daylight Time - 1100 Hours CDT
 
Ride from Anderson Funeral Home to Cemetery for Military Burial Ceremony.
 
Gratis Lunch at American Legion Hall.
 
Rolling Thunder® Wisconsin State Meeting to follow.
All Chapters from all States, including National, and members at large are welcome.
 
Funeral of John Norman (expow) 2005-06-11
Funeral of John Norman (expow) who was a native of Michigan and a captured POW in Vietnam war, Laos. then released in 1971. His passing was in January 05.
Services to be held this June 11, 05 in Escanaba, Mi 1:00 pm  EDT commencing at Anderson Funeral Home and proceeding to with full military honors and a gathering afterwards at the American Legion hall.
 
Anyone needing more info please contact:
Rodger @ 231-843-1199
Rich @ 608-339-2659
Russ @ 715-827-5694
Mark @ 920-434-1346
Mike @ 262-244-0661

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John Lester Norman
 
John was only Seventeen (17) when he joined the United States Army.  Sent to Vietnam, as a radio operator, he is still trying to live with the guilt of having been the only one to be holding the antennae that was seen by the enemy in the jungle brush on the Cambodian border.  He will never be able to forget watching them murder his Lieutenant while he remained in a 6'x6'metal box with his hands and feet tied together behind his back.  For days he lay there baking in that box with his shoulders dislocated and sure he would die.  When the Marines rescued him, he felt guilty that he was leaving alive and others had died because of that antennae...the "IF ONLY'S" continue to haunt him on this and countless other missions where he lived and his fellow soldiers died...some gutted alive while he watched helplessly, others still Missing in Action that he may never know if they died quickly or are still being tortured today the way his was.
 
His only consolation was that he was going to come home and be greeted by supporters who would make him feel that this trauma was worth it because he was fighting a war that had to be fought.  Perhaps, he would be able to forgive himself, if they would let him know how much they appreciated his sacrifices.  As he stepped of the plane in his United States Army uniform, a crowd booing at him and calling him a baby killer greeted him.  When one of the crowd members spit on him as he passed he quickly got his luggage and went to the airport bathroom where he changed into civilian clothes and for the nest twenty five (25) years refused to admit he was ever a soldier in the United States Army.  After broken relationships and nearly drinking and drugging himself to death, John finally checked into a PTSD program in a Veterans Hospital.  A three (3) month program lasted thirteen (13) months for him.  He was able to make it clean and sober for over a year until his world fell apart again.  A divorce, three of his friends from Vietnam committing suicide, his brother's and his father's alcohol related deaths pushed him back to hiding in his own drunken stupor. Most people don't understand why someone with a full service connected disability and plenty of money to live where he wanted would be homeless.  John will be the first to say that homelessness is not only a financial issue, it is a heart issue.  Without connections and having a purpose, there is no reason to settle down and have a "home".
 
After his sixth (6) drunk driving charge, John was offered a place to stay at Randlin Home.  He was doing wellbut when he moved out and got involved with someone, the relationship triggered old memories and the cycle began to repeat itself.  Now facing prison after violating his probation by drinking and disorderly conduct, John is back in treatment dealing with PTSD issues again.  He will be coming back to Randlin Home's second transitional facility where they will work with his probation officer to provide an alternative to revocation in a supportive home setting.  John will be assured of transportation to his regular mental health and medical treatment and will also be monitored to ensure his sobriety.  His medications will be managed so he is not tempteed to self medicate with more than is prescribed and he will have access to crisis intervention twenty-four (24) hours a day, seven (7) days a week.  John is part of a family again where he is loved and appreciated for his sacrifices.  He also serves on the Randlin Home Advisory Board to speak to the needs of Veterans that are in search of the kind of help that Randlin Home can provide.

Randlin Adult Family Care Homes, In
706 N. 10th Ave.
Wausau, WI 54401

Telephone Numbers and Contact Information
(715) 849-2969 Ralph Schlitz or Linda Larson Schlitz
(715) 212-2339 Linda's cellphone
(715) 212-2588 Ralph's cellphone
(715) 848-4161 Fax
randlinhomes@yahoo.com Email
http://www.geocities.com/randlinhomesWebsite

Fees: Average fee is $1,500/mo., depending on client needs. Please call for details.
Intake Procedure: Agency and private referrals accepted.
Area Served: Mainly Central Wisconsin.
Major Funding Source: Placing agency.

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NOT NOTED BY DoD on the PMSEA - check with Larry Greer, Pentagon, 703-699-1100 ext 1169

North Star, Timothy
aka 
Star, Timothy North
CA
S. Dakota

08/2006
CALIF


10/2006
Long Beach

 

06/2000

09/2002

04/2005

04/2005

08/2006

10/2006

05/2007

07/2007

08/2009

 

Claims: POW, SEAL, Annapolis Naval Academy grad

06/2000 - Claims to be a Tlingit (Alaskan) Native American who's the "most decorated Native American in the country" and  who is the "only Navey Seal authorized to still wear his Navy Whites  at public ceremonies." HE claims to be one of the last POW's to leave  Viet Nam. That, he was the one shown being removed from the tail area  of the airplane (C17?) on a gurney... (Life magazine.) Says he was  the guy who scratch the piano keys into the floor of his cell and that  this is what he used to "keep himself sane." Many mroe stories like  that... all under the portence of being a decorated Seal. 

About 3 years ago a Indian claiming to be a Lieutenant in the Navy Seals was around. He said he was captured and rather than give up the location of his men the Viet Cong ripped out his finger and toe nails. That is why he walks the way he walks. His last name is  North Star. He said they named a Blvd. after him at juneau Alaska. I had just purchased a book about that time called "Stolen Valor" and became interested in so called wannabees. I served south of Saigon out of a base called "Nha Be" which was decommissioned or turned over to the South Vietnamese in 1972. I asked him "North Styar" and "Raymond Aucker" if they served around there but could never get a answer. They seem to be waiting for my question or answer. The usual response was still classified or I don't want to talk about it. Have to go. will keep in touch. Paul


At 4/16/2005 12:02 PM -0700, you wrote:

I was introduced to a man claiming to be a Vietnam veteran who claimed to be a Navy SEAL team leader in Vietnam and was a POW for 4 yrs and 3 days.   As a POW the enemy pulled off all his finger nails and toe nails (his fingernails are all missing, I never saw him without shoes on so I can't vouch for his toenails being gone).  He also claims that the enemy plucked several of his teeth out and showed me several gold crowns in his upper and lower jaws.  Claims he has cancer from Agent Orange and that he receives treatment at the VA and does not have to wait in line because of his Navy SEAL Lt. rank.   He claims to be a Native American holy man (medicine man) from the Linlit (spelling??) tribe of Alaska.  I was asked if this man could stay at a home I have for disabled people and I said no problem.  He was to stay for a couple of days because he was worn out from his cancer and needed a couple days rest.  He stayed for approx 2 1/2 weeks during which time he captured my interest with the medicine man routine and my respect and gratitude for fighting and suffering in a war, (thank you from depth of my soul to all the men and women who have put their lives on the line for this country and its people, I honor each and every one of you whether you are still hear with us or watching over from heaven.  Thank you)  So I let him stay and told him he was welcome for as long as he needed a place.   Then some things didn't add up and I decided to surf the internet for info on Navy SEAL team leaders.  What I found was this website and the phony list.  I was shocked to say the least.  So just to make sure I called a phone number provided and spoke to a gentleman at the Dept of Defense POW/MIA Dept. and was told that Timothy Star or Timothy North Star was never a POW.  I went straight home and confronted my war hero (who by the way claims he escaped from the prison camp) and said "Hey North Star I spoke with a man today from the Department of Defense and they want you to call them right away.  Apparently you escaped from a POW camp that they are completely unaware of and now that you have surfaced they want to see you so that they can get your comrades out of there right away.  So here is the phone and the number ...he stared at me...I told him he had three choices.  call the number in the morning so any prisoners that may still be there are freed or help me understand why you found it necessary to lie to me and con me with your bullsxxt or be gone when I wake up.   He chose to be gone when I woke up.   WARNING to all, this man Timothy Star goes by the name of North Star and claims to be a Holly Man (medicine man) he got me for $200.00 and almost another $750.00 that he promised to pay back after he returned from Red Lake after he and the other medicine men were done burning the dead children from the shooting that took place there a few weeks ago.  He returned the clothes and misc things I had given to him and left with a Smith and Wesson hunting knife and a one way bus voucher to South Dakota (I canceled the bus ticket).  The last word is that he called a friend of mine on 4-16-05 from 605-584-4672.  Don't let this man con you and get your money or possessions and if anyone sees him....let him know that you know he is a FAKE!  the Piece of S#%T!
 
Hey North Star....Make your amends and set your self free...I will pray for you Star.
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..... met a man named Timothy North Star Monday 4/18 and 4/19 in Rapid City, SD at an AA club. He told us all the same story someone reported to you on 4/16/05, with an addition of being the pipe organ pianist for Rev. Billy Graham at one time and the organist for St. James Episcopal Church on Wilshire Blvd. LA....A Navy Seal as he claims and a POW and being decorated with purple hearts, bronze cluster and a Navy Cross in 1972 by Pres. Nixon He claims to be a medicine man from Juno Alaska of the Klingit tribe.

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08/2006 -  This is to update your entry on Timothy North Star. He is living in southern California and he is still claiming to be a former Navy SEAL and Vietnam POW.
 
Timothy North Star is living in the greater Los Angeles area. You see him occasionally at local pow-wow's and claims to be undergoing cancer treatment in Santa Monica.  Besides still claiming to be a former Navy sea officer, a Vietnam POW, and Navy Cross winner, he arrived in LA with many original sacred items from S. Dakota. These I saw myself and they were originals not fakes, and we were wondering who in their right mind would allow Tim North Star to carry some other family's medician like that.
No Lakota that I know of would every allow a non Lakota to bear such items.  So we think they might have been stolen or taken by other means and sold here in LA.  If anyone who reads this has knowledge of what was taken then you should use this info to help in maybe tracking it down and returning to the proper family.
 CONTACT US

10/2006 
He claims to be a Native American Indian from the Klingit tribe in Juneau Alaska (he even demonstrated some of his own dialect for me).  Same stories as from the others here.  only additional information was that he has a wife (Nancy?), a boy, and a set of twin girls.  he also claims to have adopted a boy from his sister (?) who had died in a car accident or something.   He came to our church and claimed to have been in the area to speak at a conference.    He did have a pack of old pictures showing him in white naval attire with lots of medals on his chest.  Dark hair, 5' 11"

05/2007
It's a very sad day for all of us here who listened to him give the most beautiful speech and defend the rights to maintain the prayer site for the medicine men for the Indian Nations here on the west coast (they are likely to lose this site). He had several of us crying with the most beautiful speech about memorializing not only the dead, but those currently in Iraq and how he really wanted our soldiers to come home.
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05/2007

No man by the name of Timothy North Star was ever with any one of us, the authentic 661 surviving POWs of the Vietnam War.  Nor is he known by the Department of Defense in this regard.  For the Defense Department official listing of all 3,797 MIAs (to
You can confirm this information with the Department of Defense: Mr. Greer, Public Affairs Officer, can be reached at 703-699-1169.  Call during normal Washington, DC working hours. 
 
I am an Annapolis grad.  I have the registry of all attendees (includes non-graduates) here in my hand.  Mr. North Star is not listed.  Mary has access to organizations who have all the registries of anyone who attended and completed BUDS or SEAL training.
 
Looks like this guy is just a bunch of Smoke & Mirrors.  If he wears medals,  a military device or uniform that is not earned, he is in violation of Title 18, Section 702 and 704 of the Code.  Pictures and witnesses can help get this guy before a federal judge. 
 
Sincerely,

John M. McGrath
Captain, USN (Retired)
POW NVN 5 years 8 months
NAM-POWs Historian
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Norton, Herbert OH 2003 Claims "short term" POW .
Nothstine, Ralph Fountain, CO 1997 Claims POW .
NUTTING, KENNETH Sunapee, NH 10/2008 CLAIMS 101st Army Air SP Forces 
" i was a pow and lost my hand to the gooks"

AOL  SCREENNAME KEYSAREME1 

CLAIMS TO BE A POW FROM NAM. HE HAS USED THIS  CLAIM FOR YEARS TO GET AND SOLICIT MONIES FROM PEOPLE. CLAIMS TO HAVE BEEN AT THE HANOI HILTON & TO HAVE  BEEN "'RETURNED"" IN 1975.

CLAIMS TO BE FROM NH BORN AND RAISED ON A FAMILY FARM THERE AND NEVER LEFT STATE EXCEPT TO BE IN MILITARY.

NO MILITARY RECORDS COULD BE LOCATED BY NPRC.
Nydegger, Robert CA #
09/2001
05/2007
12/2009
At 09/27/2001 0157 PM -0700;   I am a deputy district attorney in San Diego County. I prosecuted Robert Nydegger for the murder of Timothy Cudd (USN retired) He was found guilty of first degree murder on 2-20-1991 in San Diego Superior Court Case CR102161. He had previously claimed he was a SEAL. That was debunked at trial with Microfiche records and the testimony of Master Chief Ray Hollenbeck (20 year SEAL) He also claimed that he was captured in Laos and spent time with Colonel Shelton USAF. This psycho also told his Shelton's wife he was dead as he had escaped with him and when recaptured the Pathet Lao (sp?) had thrown Sheltons shoes, still containing his severed feet back in the tiger cage. This fraud gave speeches and marched in parades for POWs. He was sentenced to prison for 25 years to life and will not be eligible for parole until 2008. I was proud to nail this liar..

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NEVER A SEAL and NOT a POW. Discharged an E5 in 1992 after 21 years of service - 1967-1992. MOS MH 8483.

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Subject: Robert Nydegger
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:06:57 -0700

I would suggest that the authors of this site, which I just found, look into the California Penal system records as I know Mr. Nydegger was recently up for parole and his service record was brought in to question at that time by the same very jaded prosecutor noted. During the proceeding it was made clear that the penal system as part of protocol had been provided with a complete copy of Mr. Nydegger service record by the Defense Department, .......

Any one who has been on your site for more that ten years, without proof, should be researched and if you can’t say that you can prove they have lied, they should be removed. Haven’t veterans of Vietnam suffered enough, why do we have to continue to punish them?

Affidavit in support of a search warrant that was executed in June of 2005
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Prison inmate charged in 1987 killing of corpsman

The Associated Press
Posted: 10/15/2009 04:11:15 PM PDT
Updated: 10/15/2009 07:40:19 PM PDT

NATIONAL CITY, Calif.­A 62-year-old man already serving a life sentence for murder pleaded not guilty Thursday to the killing of a Navy corpsman whose remains were discovered last year, 22 years after he went missing.

Robert Nydegger­who is serving his sentence at Solano State Prison for the 1988 murder of his roommate­entered the plea for the murder of then-25-year-old corpsman Crispino Buzon. Nydegger was ordered held without bail....
Delivered-To: info@pownetwork.org
From: "Mike McGrath" <mmcgrath62@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:33:14 -0700
Subject: Robert Nydeggger....never a MIA/POW in the Vietnam War
...thanks for your note and thank you for taking my call this morning. 
As we discussed, no man named Nydegger was ever with any of us, the real surviving 661 POWs of the Vietnam War, nor is he known by the Department of Defense in this regard.  The official list of all 3,797 MIAs (to include all POWs) is posted on the internet at the following site: 
   
Since Mr. Nydegger is not listed, he was not a POW.  I did check his name against the POW Network page.  He is posted.  That page also rebukes his claim of having been a SEAL.   If his name is not on the class lists of those who completed BUDS training, he could not have been a SEAL.  There are several SEAL verification sources which confirm this information.
 
Sincerely,

Mike McGrath
POW in North Vietnam 5 years 8 months
NAM-POWs Historian
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