He has pictures of award citations including:
" Out Standing Combat Achievement Ribbon"
"Also the Bronze Star"
Presidential citation of some type
Department of Defense citation for "Honor and Valor Above And Beyond....in Vietnam.......And Special Duty Assignment To The United States Army Special Forces In North Vietnam."
"In Full Honor Of First Class Explosive Ordinance TechnicianEdward Gerald Granger's Loyalty And Bravery As P.O.W. In Nam Dineh North Vietnam June 1966 Through April 1967 He Is Hereby Awarded The United States Navy Cross." --this one is supposedly signed by a congressman -David Houser, dated May 15th 1967.
All these citations are written on the same fancy paper with an American flag washed onto the background, some with a Navy type seal, and some with a presidential or congressional seal.
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aka Barber, William Micheal
aka "Doc" Barber
aka CJ Micheal Barber
aka Micheal Barber
aka James M. Barber
and MORE (up to 24)
Records indicate service from May 7, 1970 to November 16, 1971. Rank, Private. Record of Assignments notes DROPPED FROM ROLES FOR DESERTION 3 Aug 1970/AWOL AND 13 April 71/DESERTION.
10/2006
aka Klein, David
12/2001
10/2004
03/2008
Atlantic Monthly had article by PJ O'Rourke mentioning
Garcia and his POW captivity......12/01
Featured in an article in TIME Magazine in 1993 - as
"Dave" - on site in the Ashau Valley in Vietnam.
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Was reading a P.J. O'Rourke article in the Atlantic Monthly and mention was made of a David Garcia who now lives in Asia and was a prisoner of the Viet Cong. Legit or a wannabe? Hope all is well with you and yours, Semper Fi, Zeb.
Zeb...Yep, you got one of our 700 phony POWs. David Garcia is well known to us. He is posted on the internet as a fraud. Several in the Hong Kong area have made it public that he is a fraud, but he still keeps chugging along with the cock and bull story. He claims he was a LURP (long range patrol), fought in A Shau Valley, captured, spent 2 years, 4 months and 27 days as a POW....all BS. He is not known by DOD as ever MIA or a POW for even one day. I think the LURP stuff is a lie, too.
Mr. David Petersen Garcia
c/o Foreign Correspondents Club
1 Lower Albert Road
Central, Hong Kong
Mr. Garcia,
For the last few months, it has been our unfortunate task to investigate your claims of captivity during the Vietnam War. You are well aware that your claims cannot be substantiated, and are fraudulent. YOUR FRIENDS now realize this also.
According to all available records from the United States Government, posted publicly on the Internet, you, Mr. Garcia were never held, captured, detained, missing in action for 2 hours nor 2 days nor ANY AMOUNT OF TIME during the Vietnam War. You weren't rescued and did not escape. You were never on covert ops, secret missions, your papers were not burned in St. Louis, your mission wasn't classified nor did you beg to be kept off the lists for privacy sake. You are not a "lost Sheep" nor a member of the group of legitimate returnees -- and we have contact with all of them. Your statements to this effect have disgraced the honor of the many that served, the families that still wait, and those that have returned.
We have called the Pentagon (Larry Greer, 703-602-2102 x 169) to verify your claims. We have also contacted the President of the organization of returnees, former POW Capt. John Michael McGrath, USN Ret, for further verification of the fraud and misconception by you. Neither know you as a former, honored, Prisoner of War.
Enclosed you will find a FORM180, request for military records. If you still insist that you were held captive, please COMPLETE and sign the release form and return it to us. You are free to choose a neutral party for your complete set of military records to mailed to. Sadly, we cannot trust having them mailed to you.
Should you choose not to sign the release, and not to admit to the lie, we will notify every Veterans group, newspaper, radio, TV station, VA facility, the courts, and local governmental offices in your area of Hong Kong that they have a wannabee POW in their community. They will be told the claims of captivity are NOT to be believed. Additionally, we will notify veterans groups and travel agency that handles travel to and from SE Asia of your sickening lies - which we will not even repeat it sickens us so.
If evidence is found that you, Mr. Garcia, wear medals you are not entitled to, have POW plates on you car, are receiving VA benefits under this guise, or have altered your DD214 - you may be subject to Federal prosecution. Until and unless you admit to all that you have lied, your name will remain posted on the HALL OF SHAME, HEROES OR VILLAINS site on the Internet. Should you think this is a bluff, please find Internet Access and see
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies
This listing includes your name as well as the many other phony and wannabee POWs uncovered in the last several years. ALL claimed to have been held. NONE were. You have until February 10th for the completed FORM180 to be in our hands. Furthermore, should you doubt our ability to notify all of the aforementioned groups, we can give you the names of many phonies that have seen the results of our "fraud alerts" in their hometowns, on the job and in the church communities. Several are now single, unemployed, or have run out of town. Is there some familiar reason there in why you don't come "home"? Your "family" reason is almost laughable.
We wonder what gives you the right to steal the honor and respect our returnees have earned with their suffering? You steal their glory, yet you fail to steal and suffer their pain or nightmares. Mr. Garcia, you are a DISGRACE to your heritage, our veterans, our POWs, our missing, their families and our heroes. SHAME ON YOU.
The clock is ticking.
Sincerely,
Mary Schantag
cc: Capt John Michael McGrath, USN Ret, President, NAM POWs, Inc.
Mr. Larry Greer, OASD International Security Affairs, DPMO, the
Pentagon
American Ex-POWs
BTW - we can only locate two records for David P Garcia serving
in Vietnam..... The MOS certainly does not fit the most fantastic
missions you claim. You don't suppose one of these is really YOURS,
do you??
05C
RADIO TELETYPE OPERATOR
RADIO TELETYPE TEAM CHIEF
75C Personnel Management Specialist
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From: "P.O.W. Network - Chuck and Mary Schantag" <info@pownetwork.org>Subject: Not a POW - is he a LRRPDate: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:15:24 -0500Ex-LURP Sergeant David Garcia prepares a shrine to his fallen comrades atopHamburger Hill with the help of a former Viet Cong soldier who fought inthe same battle. In that battle in May 1969 in the A Shau Valley, David wascaptured and spent 2 years, four months and 27 days as a POW.FCC in HONG KONG
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:25:56 -0500
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At 02/21/2002 09:50 AM +0800, you wrote:
Hello, I am with Apple Daily, we are a very large Chinese newspaper in Hong Kong. I am checking into a David Garcia Peterson who your site lists as a faker. His story has now become that he was held as a special ops prisoner in Cambodia.. CIA and all very hush hush...
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During the investigation he told others that it CAN'T be him - he was not a U.S. citizen and never served in Vietnam. Then additional stories appear in articles where he AGAIN claimed to be a Vietnam POW. We CAN say he was NEVER a POW- he was NOT covert, his records didn't burn and he's a LIAR.
He was given an opportunity to sign a records release....... there was NO response. He KNEW he'd be noted as a phony if he did not sign the release. It was clearly STATED in the letter.
Mary and Chuck Schantag
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aka Raymond John Gauthier
FL
04/2006
06/2006
08/2007
10/2007
| Claims
POW and more
ACTUAL RECORDS AND BOGUS DD214 Gauthier
attempts suicide |
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Ray Gauthier,
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2 SS, 3 PH, DSC - held 3 weeks, taken to Cambodia, , wounded arm and leg, claims parents notified he was KIA, helicopter rescued!!!! Claims went back to unit after escape, treatment, and took a DH18 claymore hit. Told tale to 200 students in front of real POW.
10/2002
-- OH6A pilot, assigned 101st Airborne, helicopter support to Naval Artillery FO's and command staff in I Corps PLUS above claims..
Atlanta GA
| Gary Gillespie | ||
| Gillespie,
Gary Chelsea, MI
Age 57, passed away December 18, 2007
while diligently working on a customers computer. Gary was
an avid computer technician. He had a passion for his
family and technology. Gary was generous with his time
and advice. Gary was a proud Republican who served
his country in the Vietnam war. Gary was a POW
and received a purple heart during his service. He was
a solider with pride and an advocate of his country. Gary
was a great husband to his wife Susan of 30 years. He
spend 20 years as a Master Diesel Mechanic. He was one
with machines. Gary built and donated many computers to
seniors and charity groups in his 15 year computer career.
He believed all, young and old could to learn to
use a computer. ... |
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aka Graig Wolf
aka Gray Wolf
Rick Golding (aka Graig Wolf)/Gray Wolf and Hushton Jackson live in Loman Idaho . They claim to be half brothers.... Both claim Army, POW's in Nam, have Purple Hearts, Rick claims a CMH and they both claim to be disabled Vets, both claim to have been in the 5th Special Forces in Nam, Rick claims to have been Honor Guard at Arlington.
It's reported that every year just before Thanksgiving they go to Horseshoe Bend, Idaho City and Boise with phony DD 214's to Church's and anywhere else and get food and clothes and toy's, whatever they can get and the use the war Hero angle, then these dirt bags allegedly SELL what they got to poor people who should have received it free. They also panhandle bars and stores. They do this with dress Green uniform jackets on, with all the Army & Navy store metals they can get their hands on. They go as far as to leave one arm out of a sleeve like they lost an arm in war (they take turns at this). They have reportedly gone door to door in Boise collecting donations in the name of the VFW.
Hushton Jackson was born in 1963 and he claims he was in Nam in 1968, he also left Leadville area of CO reportedly because family services wanted him for child abuse. Rick Golding is from up state New York and had to leave Texas reportedly because some Vets got close to skinning him... They both claim to have done training jumps out of special black op's aircraft that is classified, but didn't know what a c-119, c-130, or a c-141 was. They both claim to have been with the 5th SF and to have fought at hill 937 and they claim to have been there for the Tet offensive. Rick Golding claims to have been captured when the chopper he was a pilot of crashed at Son Tay prison rescue attempt. He also says he is a Karate expert and taught hand to hand combat at Fort Bragg. Reportedly neither have drivers license or known social security numbers. They live in a "compound" and also claim to have the missing 128 books of the Bible and a few wives each. They hide in Loman Idaho right across from the Sourdough Diner, (that is where their compound of old mobile homes are), neither of them work....SUN CITY ---- Monroe "Goldie" Goldman, 74, died Wednesday, May 3, 2006, at his home.
Born Dec. 25, 1931, in Pinebluff, Ark., he lived in Sun City for 14 years. He served in the U.S. Navy from 1950 to 1970. He was a prisoner of war in Vietnam. He enjoyed traveling in his RV, woodworking, fishing and his family.
...
A memorial service is scheduled for 11 a.m. Thursday, May 11, at Menifee Valley Memorial Park in Sun City. Inurnment will follow at 1 p.m. at Riverside National Cemetery.
The family suggests donations to the Ronald McDonald House of Loma Linda.
Miller-Jones Mortuary & Crematory in Sun City is handling arrangements.
03/2001
04/2004
01/2005
08/2007
... she started talking about his PTSD diagnosis and of all things, Alzheimer's. ... rank as E-5 while he claimed to be a retired Warrant Officer. The real kicker was when she mentioned to me recently that he was a POW in Viet Nam.
02/17/2006
States ... "I had no interest in pusuing P.O.W. status, it would be
of no benefit to me, and than more than likely I lacked enough documents
to prove it..." continues You have ten working days from the
date of receipt of this certified letter......to comply with my
request....
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· I was captured in the Central Highlands and moved around
for most of a year, later rescued by members of the 101st during an Arclight bombing. My proff of all this is one lone Med-Evac slip dated when I was recovered. Un like your Wanabees, I can't remember much of the incident, it's blanked out of my mind, and what you see here is more than I have ever said to anyone. I do know, and have been told that almost every bone in my body has been broken, at least once. I don't remember that.Thank You, CWO Lloyd I Goldston USA (Ret)· For your information, I am a 100% disabled retired Veteran. I did not get POW status, because I did not have enough documentation to prove my status
· At 60 years old, I still ball like a baby if I try, and very few people other than the VA know about my military life. I was a Wrecker Operator (Recovery Specialist) in a maintenance Company in the wrong place at the wrong time.
· My records were lost or destroyed in Vietnam. The one paper I had to prove my status was the Med-Evac slip were as when I was re-patraited and returned to the US (Letterman Army Hospital at Presidio of San Francisco) Personel opened a new 201 file, later called a reconstructed 201 file. My parents have passed on, but I don't remember my folks every saying anything about the procedure you mentioned, or even the Western Union Telegram.
· I have worked with the best of the Spokane WA. VA staff, and other than making me cry like a baby, they have never been able to bring out information that I would like to know.
· Do you remember VT-26 out of Beeville Texas, and VT- 27, out of NAS Corpus Christie Tx?? My short six year Navy stint was there, then I went back to the Army, never missing a beat. I did Germany also and at one time was good in German. Have lost most of it now. My three children were born at the Nurenberg Army Hospital.
· I was shot in the left chest, left knee and left hand and a broken lower back. On a lung and a half, I seem to always get chest colds, but of all these physical wounds, my PTSD has given me the worst problems. Reading your emails I am amazed at how sharp and focused you seem to be. In my brief captivity, they never got me up north.
Records indicate service
Aug 5 62 - Feb 4 63 USA
Feb 5 63 - April 7 1964 USA
April 8 64 - March 1970 USA
Feb 14 75 - May 22 1978, USN
Enroute to Vietnam - 8 Mar 66
13 Oct 66 - HAWK 15th Ary HAFB Florida
Dropped from rolls for desertion
April 21 1967
Dropped from Rolls deserter Feb 68
AWOL March 68
AWOL Sept 68
Discharged E5/AME2
NO PURPLE HEART
CASE TURNED OVER TO VA AND DOD INSPECTOR GENERALS AS WELL AS FBI.
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2000
Former
POW begins new chapter of life's story
By
SYLVIA LOBATO
Manuel
Gomez smiles as he recounts his life after the war. He was held prisoner
for three months in Vietnam and finally escaped with seven comrades....
continued.....
Author LINDA MAES Date 18 Sep 2003 200 AM GMT
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I am searching for any relative of Ricardo Gonzales. I know his fathers name is Jesus, and his mothers is Luz. The spelling may be wrong. I also know that he has three children, Brandon, Jesse and Jenny. I believe the mother of these children, who are grown by now, was named Lisa. Ricardo doesn't remember an awful lot, and is not sure of some of the names, places and events that he does remember. Ricardo spent almost two years in a P.O.W. camp in vietnam. He thinks he has a brother named Frank, or Francisco and one named Luis. He has sister, somewhere, and thinks their names are Stella, Romona and Maria, but he is not sure. He was born in Demming New Mexico. His family moved to california, and he went to school in Moro Bay California. I think Recardo was born in 1949. Ricardo is in very bad health, we really need to find a member of his family before it is to late. Please help, thankyou. Linda
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I am searching for any relative of Ricardo Gonzales. I know his fathers name is Jesus, and his mothers is Luz. The spelling may be wrong. I also know that he has three children, Brandon, Jesse and Jenny. I believe the mother of these children, who are grown by now, was named Lisa. Ricardo doesn't remember an awful lot, and is not sure of some of the names, places and events that he does remember. Ricardo spent almost two years in a P.O.W. camp in vietnam. He thinks he has a brother named Frank, or Francisco and one named Luis. He has sister, somewhere, and thinks their names are Stella, Romona and Maria, but he is not sure. He was born in Demming New Mexico. His family moved to california, and he went to school in Moro Bay California. I think Recardo was born in 1949. Ricardo is in very bad health, we really need to find a member of his family before it is to late. Please help, thankyou. Linda
Looking for someone who knows of Marine who took his training at Camp Pendleton in 1968 ot 1969, named Ricardo Gonzales orginaly from Moro Bay Calif. Was injuried in Nam, has memory problems, is age 55 mexicoplus2001@yahoo.com
aka Caffaro, John
10/99
November 12, 2004
Tampa Tribune - Section PASCO
Page 3
CHERYL BENTLEY
The Suncoast News
PORT RICHEY They met on Nov. 5 at Amber Wood assisted living center.
Retired Army Sgt. Maj. Leonard Grace, who has been at Amber Wood for a couple of weeks, pulled out a letter from the Army detailing his service record and thanking him for it. ... With their wheelchairs pulled next to each other, the two quickly were lost in conversation, calling up memories in that closeness many veterans share......
Grace, 57, was born into a military family at Fort Bragg, N.C.
"I like being active rather than being a desk jockey," Grace said of his decision to become an enlisted man rather than an officer.
Highlights of his career include service on the staffs of Gens. Norman Schwarzkopf and Tommy Franks during the 1990s and periodically assisting the Department of Defense military attache' in the White House from 1987 to 1997.
Grace said he also was a prisoner of war in Vietnam for six years.
He holds three Purple Hearts, two Silver Stars and a Bronze Star.
He uses a wheelchair because of a stroke and what he considers inadequate medical treatment, Grace said......
2nd report 00
aka
Holbrook, Rickey Herbert
PHONY DD214's
07/2005
HAS VA POW ID CARD
Was a photographer in Nam for HqCo H&SBn. NO Purple Heart.
Court Martial record not in file. E6, served August 67 to July 75.
Grand Island/Omaha area
09/2007
- Claims POW, tortured and buried alive
- Claims CIA - records secret
- Flew for Special Forces Claims he can fly any plane, crash landed 2 before being shot down.
- After being shot down, wandered through the jungle for months, found a camp of soldiers, Americans hailed him as a hero.
- Would go on recon missions - come out barely alive, Viet houseman would make medicinal drinks and after he came back from unconsciousness, would go back out again.
- Claims extensive medical training from Special Forces. Has worked as a Physicians Assistant for a cardiologist.
- Claims he speaks Russian, Italian, Greek, Spanish and Vietnamese.
- Has claimed to be a minister for Church of Christ in NC
- Has claimed to be a Baptist minister in TX
- Has claimed to be a Rabbi in Florida
- May now be Mennonite
- May now claim rank of Colonel.
- Has been married several times - draining finances before leaving.
- Claims HIS father was part of Philadelphia Project.
============================== - Claims he got a battlefield promotion in Nam on his second tour ended up a Captain and was riffed to a GySgt., switched his commission to the Navy and retired a Navy Captain, reserve type.
- Claims he and his squad left all ID behind in the DMZ, as they were "Force Recon" types, and he was the only one to survive an errant bomb blast that vaporized the others. He was thus captured, up North.
- The story changed from that, and he claimed to being captured as an enlisted man by the Viet Cong and being held in a cage. He said, "I love the rain." ... "No, I really do, that was the only time they (VC) wouldn't take us out of our cages and torture us, they didn't like to get wet and dirty."
- The story changed yet again. This time he claimed a photography gig and how he had rescued Sgt. Major Puckett at Khe San, and how the good Sgt. Major wanted him to marry his daughter. He claimed battle field promotion to 2nd Lt., and how he and another Lt. were with 5 Montangyards doing their spying with the camera's and how they were captured and used as "slave labor" to carry the VC's equipment and how they shot the other Lt., right in front of Harold, because he had fallen and broken his leg. A VC was going to shoot Harold also, but the squad leader said something to the effect, you shoot him, Harold, and you will carry all the equipment.
- Then there is the story about the "Bra" area and how Harold's squad rescued the Major that went drifting down the river.
- And so it goes.
How he ever got a POW-VA card I'll never know. The people at the Grand Island VA, checked him out with Omaha and said he was good to go.
Assigned: Binghamton NY, Ft Benning GA, Ft Jackson SC
"Decorations and Awards - N/A"
quote
His whole team "vaporized" by an "errant bomb?" What was it…a B28 at min. yield, groundburst?
If it was that close to him, he wouldn't be here. These idiots have absolutely NO knowledge of bombs or explosives to say this kind of stuff.
endquote
aka Terry Gordon Green
Leesville, LA
More about me: 8yrs7mts an 27 days nat guard and armey colvert ops 3 mts p.o.w. classfied loactionin 66 been an Elder in the chs of God since73 about.seventh day
Active - June 59 to Nov 60
and Army Aug 63 to July 66
Spec 4
Awards: Nat Defense and Exp Rifle.
Auto Repairman
aka Budd Guido
NM
06/2005
2005 - "He is still conning people and now his story is that he was a POW in VietNam got shot in the hip while he was escaping, ended up in a full bodycast and got his nurse pregnant. Stated under oath stating that he was a Green Beret and a POW. He says he doesn't have to pay taxes because he is on disability. He tells horrible stories of war atrocities that other Vets committed and this gave him PTSD. Can you stop this guy from conning anyone else. He cheats people all the time and then blames it on the war, that the government made him into a liar----when he gets found out.. He was conning a cancer doctor in Farmington. He also conned a horse club in Colorado into believing he needed cancer treatments. He is a big Blowhard but always gets away with everything. Can you tell me what I can do to stop the lies."
aka Dr. U Maung Gyi
aka Winston Maung Maung
aka Manbahadur Rai
aka Naik Minbahadur Raji
Maung Gyi has left Ohio is living in Atlanta GA in a retirement home type place with his wife.
and repeated
He's teaching again - 08/2007
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Please use the name "link" to see claims and claims and claims and claims
08/2005
Dr.Gyi
is having a seminar in Western New York in
October. Check this thread if you care to…http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26292&page=1&pp=15
NO MILITARY RECORDS CAN BE LOCATED
April 25, 2003 Federal Investigator's
visited Gyi....
12/2007
The link to a fake POW being treated like a hero who Dan Inosanto
invited into his dojo to make money!
http://inosanto.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=71
The link to pictures
of American Heros who lost their lives! Somehow Mr. Inosanto feels they
are of equal value!
http://inosanto.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=345&Itemid=57