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by Henry Mark Holzer (Author of "Aid and Comfort", Jane Fonda in North Vietnam)
For those having read "Aid and Comfort", Holzer is making another case: there is serious problem of fake warriors 
who act out of a variety of neurotic (and worse) psychological reasons, resulting in unacceptable moral, legal, financial and other consequences; the solution is for decent people to identify the fakers, to make common cause with others who want to do something about the problem, and to invoke/use the many legal and social tools available.

NO GUTS NO GLORY - Unmasking Navy SEAL Imposters. By Steve Robinson, former Navy SEAL.

2010 

Sue Ann Dunford and James Douglas O’Dell have authored a book entitled “MORE THAN SCUTTLEBUTT – The U.S. Navy Demolition Men in WWII” which is unequaled in its detail and accuracy regarding the demolition units of the US Navy during WWII and the men who trained and served as “Demolition Men”. Ms. Dunford’s father was a Demolition Man, and her personal search for information related to her father’s training and service provided the initial inspiration for the work which ultimately resulted in this amazing book.  

Here is the link where the specifics regarding the book may be found - http://ncdu-udt-ww2.com/

It’s truly a MONSTER at 8 ½ x 11 inches, nearly 1 ½ inches thick, and 575 pages. It contains hundreds of B/W photographs, the complete history of WWII demolition training and units, and a comprehensive listing of more than 4,000 men who served in the various demolition units during the war. I highly recommend the book for anyone who served in the Scouts & Raiders, NDCUs, UDTs, or SEAL Teams at ANY point in history or for anyone who might have had a family member serving in one of those demolition units. The history is fascinating, eye-opening, and unbelievably comprehensive! One of the appendices in the back of the book lists the men who trained and served with the various demolition units - identified by name, training class designation, and unit.  A large number of the photographs in the book are captioned with the names of the men depicted, as well as the activities and equipment involved. The book is absolutely mind-boggling, and it certainly opened my eyes to the complexities of the early history that I mistakenly thought I knew so well.

Steve Robinson
Author of No Guts, No Glory - Unmasking Navy SEAL Imposters
former Navy SEAL
 

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Review:

MORE THAN SCUTTLEBUTT – The U.S. Navy Demolition Men in WWII

by Sue Ann Dunford and James Douglas O’Dell

Foreword by CDR (SEAL) Tom Hawkins USN (ret)

Published September 2009 ISBN: 9780615306643

[available by ordering online: http://ncdu-udt-ww2.com/]

Ms. Dunford and Mr. O’Dell have compiled an exquisitely detailed and highly informative history of the earliest days of the U.S. Navy’s Demolition Men. Ms. Dunford’s first exposure to the world of Demolition Men began at the annual UDT-SEAL Muster at Ft. Pierce, Florida in 1993. Accompanying her father, John Dunford (GM1c, NCDU 127, UDT 24), she witnessed his first emotional reunion since WWII with many of his Teammates, and was awed by their personal accounts of wartime training and actions. Asked by several former NCDU men to assist them in locating old Teammates, Ms. Dunford agreed, but soon found the scope of her investigations widening. Her research resulted in a rapidly growing collection of information and she began to wonder if it was possible to account for all of the NCDU and UDT men of WWII and their history. She ultimately determined to undertake that task and this book is the result of that effort.

In 2004 Ms. Dunford was joined in her endeavor by Mr. James Douglas O’Dell, author of “The Water is Never Cold: The Origins of U.S. Naval Combat Demolition Units, UDTs, and SEALs” (Brassey's UK Ltd; 1st edition December 1, 2000), and author of an article entitled Joint-Service Beach Obstacle Demolition in World War II,” Engineer, April-June 2005. Mr. O’Dell’s book is credited with detailing the “historical precedents that influenced the teams, as well as their innovation and experimentation with tactics, methods, and equipment”. There can be no doubt that their combined experience and knowledge related to the subject have provided significant contributions to this account of the earliest days of what is now termed “Naval Special Warfare”.

More Than Scuttlebutt contains a comprehensive description, from concept to realization, of the U.S. Navy’s demolition programs. It uses a remarkably straightforward narrative to bring together painstaking historical research, archival documentation, and gripping first hand accounts to create a fully-realized mosaic of historical details, and to bring order to chronological complexity. The book meticulously documents the diverse activities that brought together elements of the military, science and industry, coupled them with the tenacity and determination of very dedicated recruits, and created a very special group of U.S. Navy sailors. Interspersed with more than 500 B/W photographs, many of which are fully captioned, the work also includes a listing of more than 4,000 men who trained and served in the various demolition units, identified by name, rate and unit assignments.

The history is thoroughly fascinating and I highly recommend it for historians and non-historians alike; for those who served in the Amphibious Scouts, NCDUs, UDTs, or SEAL Teams at ANY point in history, for anyone who has a family member who served in one of those demolition units, and for anyone interested in WWII history. The attention to detail is a delight, and it certainly opened my eyes to the complexities of early Team history that I mistakenly thought I knew so well.

~Steve Robinson (former Navy SEAL)
Author of No Guts, No Glory - Unmasking Navy SEAL Imposters

HONOR BOUND  - American Prisoners of War in Southeast Asia 1961-1973 
By Stuart I. Rochester and Frederick Kiley
LISTS ALL "U.S. PERSONNEL CAPTURED IN SOUTHEAST ASIA 1961-1973 (AND SELECTED FOREIGN NATIONALS)"  PER DPMO REFERENCE DOCUMENT MAY 1997

THE RAID - The full story of the extraordinary top-secret mission to rescue 61 American POWs in a prison compound 23 miles from Hanoi.
By Benjamin F. Schemmer.
LISTS ALL SON TAY RAID PARTICIPANTS.

The NAVY CROSS - Vietnam - Citations of awards to Men of the United States Navy and United States Marine Corps - 1964-1973.
Edited by Paul Drew Stevens.
LISTS NAVY CROSS RECIPIENTS.

STOLEN VALOR - How the Vietnam Generation was Robbed of its Heroes and its History.
By B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley.
LISTS VIETNAM PRISONERS OF WAR RETURNED ALIVE - MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENTS - RECIPIENTS OF THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE CROSS - RECIPIENTS OF THE NAVY CROSS  - RECIPIENTS OF THE AIR FORCE CROSS.

*** February 10, 2000

I just went through your entire Phony section, opened up all the sections, one by one, and I'm amazed at all your wonderful work. Fantastic reference document. I'll send all those who inquire to your site.... first... for the real McCoy authentic information on Phony POWs. Thanks for your service to the thousands of victims who are likely to fall prey to Phonies, liars and con men who would take advantage of those who are susceptible to POW sob stories.

Mike McGrath (POW 30 June '67 to 4 March '73)
President of NAM-POWs, a social and fraternal brotherhood of the Vietnam era POWs from NVN, SVN, Laos, Cambodia and China.

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