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UNCLASSIFIED 0044 JAN 93
DIA PASS TO DOD POW-MIA CENTRAL DOCUMENTATION OFFICE
SUBJ: SRV  ORAL  HISTORY, INTERVIEW WITH NGUYEN VAN BON
REF: PET 1, JTFFA MSG  200341Z  JAN 93
    
1. REEF WAS THE SUMMARY REPORT  OF ACTIVITIES CONDUCTED BY
JTFFA SPECIAL ASSISTANT, MR G.E. BELL, IN VIETNAM DURING
THE PERIOD 6 TO 18 JAN 93. PARA  1B OF REF REFERS T0 MR
NGUYEN  VAN  BON, THE WARTIME PROVINCE PARTY SECRETARY OF
THUA  THIEN-HUE, WHO WAS INTERVIEWED IN HUE CITY ON 11
JAN 93. THE FOLLOWING REPORT  PROVIDES THE INTERVIEW
RESULTS. THE INTERVIEW WAS MONITORED BY ASSIGNED
COUNTERPART  AND MINISTRY OF NATIONAL DEFENSE (MND) REP,
LTC PHAM TEO, AND MINISTRY OF THE INTERIOR (MOI) REP, MR
HA MINH THAN.

2. SOURCE, A 77 YEAR  OLD NATIVE  OF HUE CITY  REGROUPED
TO THE NORTH DURING 1954 AND RETURNED TO  SARAVAN
PROVINCE LAOS WHEN  THE NATIONAL LIBERATION FRONT WAS
FORMED IN 1960. SOURCE SAID HE WAS NEVER PERSONALLY
INVOLVED  WITH US POW'S AND  WAS  ONLY ABLE TO RECALL
HAVING HEARD ABOUT ONE CAPTURED  AMERICAN. SOURCE SAID
THAT  SOMETIME DURING THE MID 1960'S  (SOURCE NOT SURE OF
YEAR BUT  BELIEVED IT WAS 1966 OR 1967),  HE HEARD ABOUT
ONE US PILOT WHO WAS CAPTURED AFTER HE PARACHUTED FROM
AN AIRCRAFT INSIDE OF LAOS ADJACENT TO WESTERN QUANG TRI
PROVINCE. SOURCE HEARD THAT THE AIRCRAFT WAS ON A
RECONNAISSANCE, MISSION AND FLYING  VERY  LOW AT THE TIME
OF THE INCIDENT. SOURCE HEARD THE PILOT WAS TAKEN  ON
ROUTE  3-45 WEST OF A LUOI (YC3899) TO A CAMP CALLED
"IANG  KHE"  NEAR THE PILLAGES OF A HO AND "A VAI".

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SOURCE SAID THE CAMP WAS LOCATED IN THE AREA OF TROOP
STATION  (BINH  TRAM) 45. SOURCE ADDED THAT THE
DESIGNATION OF  ROUTE  B-45  WAS DERIVED FROM THE
DESIGNATION  OF TROOP  STATION 45. SOURCE RECALLED
THAT TROOP  STATION 45 WAS LOCATED IN THE  LANG TA
AREA  OF  SARAVAN PROVINCE.  SOURCE SAID ROUTE B-45
TRANSVERSED  A SECTION OF LAOS CALLED THE "RUNG
THONG"  (I.E. PINE  FOREST).  ROUTE B-45 WAS A WELL
WORN TRAIL WHICH  SERVED AS A COMMO-LIAISON ROUTE AND
SUPPLY CORRIDOR FROM  TROOP STATION 45 IN LAOS TO THE
HUE AREA. SOURCE RECALLED THAT A WELL  KNOWN AND
DIFFICULT TO NEGOTIATE RISE ALONG THE  ROUTE WAS
CALLED  "ZOC  MEO"  (I.E. MEO RISE). SOURCE HEARD THAT
THE  US POW WAS NOT ABLE TO EAT FISH SAUCE INITIALLY,
BUT EVENTUALLY  BECAME ACCUSTOMED TO IT. SOURCE COULD
NOT RECALL ANY FURTHER  INFORMATION  CONCERNING THE
US POW.

3. SOURCE  SAID THAT ACCORDING TO HIS RECOLLECTION,
ALL MATTERS PERTAINING TO US POW'S  WERE  THE
RESPONSIBILITY  OF THE ENEMY PROSELYTING ELEMENT OF
TRI  THIEN MILITARY REGION (MR). SOURCE RECALLED  THAT
THE ELEMENT WAS CALLED "DICH VAN QUAN KHU"  (I.E.
MILITARY REGION ENEMY PROSELYTING). SOURCE VAGUELY
RECALLED THAT THE ENEMY PROSELYTING ELEMENT WAS
HEADQUARTERED IN THE AREA OF XOM SON DIEN"  (XOMS SOWN
DDIEENJ) AND XOM CUU SY"  (XOMS CUWR  SYR) HAMLETS,
AND  NEAR NAM GIAO (YD 7618). SOURCE  RECALLED THAT A
PAVN  MAJ (NAME NOT RECALLED) AND NATIVE OF  HA TINH
PROVINCE WHO  WAS A CADRE OF THE ENEMY PROSELYTING
ELEMENT, WAS KILLED DURING A BOMBING ATTACK BY US
AIRCRAFT AT NAM GIAO.

4. SOURCE SAID THAT WHEN HE RETURNED FROM NORTH VIETNAM
TO SARAVAN LAOS HE WAS  APPOINTED AS THE PROVINCE
PARTY SECRETARY FOR THUA THIEN-HUE PROVINCE (BI THU TINH
UY). THE  ADMINISTRATIVE  APPARATUS  DURING  WARTIME  WAS
LOCATED INSIDE LAOS AND ACTUALLY THERE  WERE  TWO SEPARATE
ADMINISTRATIONS, WITH  THE THUA THIEN-HUE PROVINCE.
ADMINISTRATION BEHIND LOCATED WITHIN ANOTHER
ADMINISTRATIVE APPARATUS  CALLED THE MOUNTAINOUS
REGION FRONT" (MAT THAN MIEN NUJ). SOURCE EXPLAINED THIS
ARRANGEMENT BY SAYING THAT  HIS ADMINISTRATION  WAS
AN ORGAN OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY ADMINISTERING TERRITORY
OCCUPIED BY THE REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM (RVN) BY REMOTE
CONTROL,  WHILE THE MOUNTAINOUS REGION FRONT ACTUALLY
ADMINISTERED THE TERRITORY IN WHICH THEIR ADMINISTRATION

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WAS PHYSICALLY LOCATED. THE PARTY SECRETARY OF THE
MOUNTAINOUS REGION FRONT  WAS MR LE HANH (HANHJ), WHO
SOURCE  RECALLED IS NOW RETIRED AND RESIDING  IN QUANG  TRI
PROVINCE.  SOURCE BELIEVES MR HANH IS MORE QUALIFIED  THAN
HE TO DISCUSS US POW'S HELD BY  VIETNAMESE  FORCES  INSIDE
LAOS DURING THE WAR.

5. WHEN  ASKED CONCERNING OTHER  CADRE WHO MIGHT BE ABLE
TO  PROVIDE INFORMATION CONCERNING US POW/MIA, SOURCE
PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING  NAMES: MR GIAI,  THE FORMER HEAD OF
THE  PROVINCE  PARTY  COMMITTEE MILITARY PROSELYTING
SECTION (HAN LINH VAN  TINH  UY), NOW RETIRED AND RESIDING IN
HUE CITY  Mk THU (LNU) AKA THU MEO MIENG (I.E. TWISTED
MOUTH  THU), WHO WAS WOUNDED IN THE MOUTH DURING THE
WAR.  MR.  THU WAS  ALSO ASSIGNED TO THE MILITARY
PROSELYTING  SECTION  OF THE PROVINCE  PARTY COMMITTEE. HE
IS NOW RETIRED AND RESIDING  IN HUE CITY.  SOURCE  SAID THAT
ALTHOUGH  MR  GIAI  AND MR  THU  WERE  ASSIGNED TO THE
MILITARY  PROSELYTING  SECTION OF THE PROVINCE  PARTY
RATHER  THAN  THE  TRI  THIEN MR  ENEMY PROSELYTING SECTION,
THEY  MIGHT  HAVE HAD SOME CONTACT WITH US PERSONNEL
DURING THE WAR. PAVN MC THU  (LNU),  THE  FORMER CHIEF OF
STAFF FOR  TRI  THIEN  MR, NOW RETIRED AND RESIDING IN THE TRI
LOC AREA NEAR THE  MANG CA AIRFIELD (YD742230), INSIDE THE
CITADEL OF HUE CITY. SR COL BUI KHAC TOAN  (TOANF),  THE
FORMER  DEPUTY OPERATIONS OFFICER (TRO LY TAC  CHIEN) FOR
TRI THIEN  MR,  NOW  RETIRED  AND RESIDING IN HUE CITY. SR COL
NGUYEN TRONG  DANH (ZANH)  THE FORMER OPERATIONS  OFFICER
FOR  TRI  THIEN  MR, NOW  RETIRED AND RESIDING  IN HUE CITY.
(NOTE: SOURCE RECENTLY HEARD THAT A SR  COL  DANH DIED IN
HUE CITY, BUT SOURCE IS NOT SURE WHETHER  THE  REPORTED
DECEDENT  AND SR COL NGUYEN TRONG DANH  MENTIONED  BY HIM
ARE  THE SAME PERSON). MR LE DANH (ZANH) (POSSIBLY LE NGOC
DANH),  THE FORMER  DEPUTY POLITICAL  DIRECTOR  (PHO  BAN
CHU NHIEM)  OF THE TRI THIEN  MR POLITICAL SECTION, NOW
RETIRED AND RESIDING IN QUANG  TRI.  SOURCE HEARD THAT  MR
DANH  WAS RECENTLY APPOINTED, AS THE HEAD OF THE VIETNAM
WAR VETERANS ASSOCIATION IN QUANG  TRI.

6. WHEN ASKED FOR HIS OPINION AS TO WHAT IMMEDIATE ACTION
US INVESTIGATIONS  MIGHT TAKE TO OBTAIN LEADS CONCERNING
US PERSONNEL STILL UNACCOUNTED FOR IN THE THUA THIEN-HUE
PROVINCE AREA, SOURCE SUGGESTED THAT THEY GO TO WESTERN
THUA THIEN AND QUANG TRI PROVINCES. SOURCE OPINED THAT
LOCAL OFFICIALS  OF HUONG HOA DISTRICT IN QUANG  TRI, AND A
LUOI  DISTHICT OF THUA THIEN-HUE MIGHT BE ABLE  TO PROVIDE
AT LEAST SOME INFORMATION OF INTEREST. SOURCE SAID HE COULD
NOT RECALL THE NAMES OF CADRE IN  QUANG TBI, BUT DID SUGGEST
THAT  US INVESTIGATORS  CONTACT LTC KHOA  (KHOAS), THE
DISTRICT MILITARY COMMANDER, AND LTC TI  LE (LEE), THE
FORMER DISTRICT PUBLIC  SECURITY  CHIEFIN A LUOI DISTRICT.
ACCORDING TO SOURCE, BOTH LTC KHOA AND LTC LE WERE
ASSIGNED TO THE A LUOI  AREA  DURING THE  WAR.

7. COMMENT

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A. ALTHOUGH SOURCE WAS NOT UNCOOPERATIVE,  HE WAS
VERY  IMPATIENT  AND CONSTANTLY  ASKED  IF  SA WAS FINISHED
WITH THE  INTERVIEW  SOURCE CONSTANTLY EMPHASIZED  HIS
ROLE AS A PARTY  OFFICIAL, BATHER THAN A MILITARY MEMBER.
AT TIMES  SOURCE WAS  ACTUALLY JOCULAR IN THIS REGARD
CAUSING  THE MND  REP, LTC TEO, TO APPEAR SOMEWHAT UNEASY.
SA GAINED THE IMPRESSION THAT SOURCE PROBABLY KNOWS FAR
MORE THAN HE REVEALED  BUT BELIEVES HE SHOULD PASS ON THE
NAMES OR OTHER  POTENTIAL WITNESSES WITH SIMILAR KNOWLEDGE
DUE TO SOURCE'S COMMUNIST PARTY AFFILIATION. SA MADE
NO ATTEMPT TO PREVENT SOURCE FROM TAKING THIS TACK
AND BELIEVES THE NAMES PROVIDED BY SOURCE WILL
RESULT IN ADDITIONAL, MORE CASE SPECIFIC LEADS.

E. SOURCE APPEARED TO BE IN UNUSUALLY  GOOD HEALTH,
CONSIDERING HIS AGE AND JUNGLE ENVIRONMENT LIFE STYLE
THROUGHOUT  THE WAR YEARS. LTC TEO DID ADVISE HOWEVER,
THAT SOURCE. SUFFERS  FROM HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE  AND UNABLE
TO  WITHSTAND LONG INTERVIEW  SESSIONS. SOURCE WAS NOT
CONDUCIVE TO MAP TRACKING AND  CLAIMED BAD  VISION.

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