SITTNER, RONALD NICHALIS Remains returned 12/30/97 Name: Ronald Nichalis Sittner Rank/Branch: O3/United States Air Force Unit: 555th TFS Date of Birth: 20 November 1937 Home City of Record: South Euclid OH Date of Loss: 23 August 67 Country of Loss: North Vietnam Loss Coordinates: 215000 North 1052000 East Status (in 1973): Missing in Action Category: Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: F4D Incident No: 0804 Other Personnel in Incident: Charles Tyler, returnee Source: Compiled by P.O.W. NETWORK April 1997 from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S. Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published sources, interviews. REMARKS: Ronald Sittner was the "GIB" of an F4D piloted by Charles Tyler that crashed 5 miles North east of Tuyen Quang. The following was in the final report of the Senate Select Committee's POW/MIA investigation in 1993: North Vietnam Ronald N. Sittner (0804) Charles Lane, Jr. (0805) On August 23, 1967, First Lieutenant Lane and his aircraft commander, Captain Larry E. Corrigan (Case 0805), were the crewmen of an F-4 aircraft on a strike mission against the Yen Vien railroad yard. Their aircraft was hit by an air-to-air missile fired by a MIG-21 making it one of two aircraft in their flight downed by MIG-21 missiles. Their aircraft was believed to have crashed in Thai Nguyen Province, North Vietnam. Captain Corrigan was captured alive and was repatriated during Operation Homecoming. Other members of their flight reported seeing three parachutes from the crewmen of the two downed aircraft. Three clear beepers were heard as well as one weak beeper which was believed to be associated with Lieutenant Lane. Captain Corrigan was the only individual shot down who was able to establish voice contact with those overhead. Upon his release, Captain Corrigan reported seeing another individual moving around in his parachute, and he believed that individual to be Lieutenant Lane. Ha Noi press reported the aircraft downing but did not specify the number of crewmen captured. In August 1968, U.S. intelligence believed Lieutenant Lane had been captured alive and that he was in enemy custody, although his casualty status remained as missing in action. The other aircraft's crew included Major Charles R. Tyler and Captain Ronald N. Sittner (0804). Major Tyler landed and was taken prisoner. He, too, was released alive during Operation Homecoming. In October 1973, Lieutenant Lane's case was reviewed by the Department of Defense at the request of his next of kin, and his casualty status was changed to dead/body not recovered. Captain Sittner's case was reviewed at a later date, and he was also determined to be dead/body not recovered. Returning U.S. POWs were unable to confirm either individual alive in captivity in the northern Vietnamese prison system. In November 1991, the Joint Task Force interviewed witnesses to the downing of the two F-4 aircraft and the reported sighting of either 3 or 4 parachutes. The location of their downing was determined to be in Tuyen Quang Province, not in Thai Nguyen Province. Witnesses reported the capture of two airmen and stated that they were unable to locate the other two crewmen until 1970 when the partial remains of one of the two was located. Local witnesses also stated that a nearby People's Republic of China military unit arrived at one of the crash sites and recovered the wreckage of one of the downed aircraft. They provided no other details about the incident. The Joint Task Force concluded that the reported partial remains may have correlated to the remains of Lieutenant Lane, who was not confirmed to have ejected from his aircraft but could have done so. In April 1992, a U.S. team interviewed additional witnesses and recovered personal artifacts from both grave sites that did not correlate to the two airmen. ---------------------------------------------- Other information shows " 138. Sittner, Ronald N. T036 reported him 1st hand at Cu Loc & Zoo prison 8/23/67." T036 is returnee William Tschudy. And the Egress report reads: "Sittner, Ronald N. USAF Two good chutes seen. One of two crewmembers (unidentified) was known to have been alive on the ground according to Carrigan debrief C078." C078 is returnee Larry Carrigan. [bits0103.98 01/03/98] NATIONAL ALLIANCE OF FAMILIES FOR THE RETURN OF AMERICA'S MISSING SERVICEMEN WORLD WAR II - KOREA - COLD WAR - VIETNAM DOLORES ALFOND - VOICE/FAX 425-881-1499 LYNN O'SHEA ------- VOICE/FAX 718-846-4350 E-MAIL---------------- PGGK94A@PRODIGY.COM WEB SITE ------------- http://www.nationalalliance.org BITS 'N' PIECES JANUARY 3, 1998 Even we had trouble believing this one! -- Recently, a Vietnam POW/MIA family member submitted blood for mt-DNA testing, should remains associated with her brother be recovered. On December 2nd, 1997, she received a letter from the Dept. of Defense Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. The letter was signed by the Supervisory DNA Technologist DoD DNA Registry. The letter acknowledged receipt of the blood sample "to be used as a reference specimen when compared to a case presumed to be associated with yo ur brother Jesse J. Traughber." Don't go running for your list of Vietnam era POW/MIAs. Don't even bother looking for the list of Vietnam era KIA's. You won't find his name. Cpl. Jesse J. Traughber went missing during the Korean War ############# We have told you mt-DNA testing is inaccurate and can not be trusted. Now we know they can't even get the paperwork correct. Was this a clerical error or was the blood sample really mis-associated? How many more errors have been made. You'd be surprised! ############# On December 30th, 1997, the Penagon announced that three servicemen missing from the Vietnam War had been accounted for. They are Air Force Maj. Glenn A. Belcher of Fessendon, N.D.; Air Force Maj. Ronald N. Sittner of South Euclid, Ohio; and Marine 1st Lt. Brent E. Davis of Santa Clara, Calif. Glen Belcher was shot down over Laos on Dec. 31, 1967. U.S.-Laotian teams recovered bone fragments and other items from the crash site in 1994 and 1995, and the remains were later identified as those of Belcher. Ronald Sittner was shot down on Aug. 23, 1967. JTF-FA recovered remains that had been buried by villagers. They were "identified" as Ronald Sittner. Brent Davis was lost over North Vietnam on March 18, 1966. Tests showed bone fragments recovered from the crash area belonged to Davis. ############### To the families involved we hold you in our hearts and prayers during this difficult time. It is our hope that you truly have the answers you have waited so long for.