JONES, BOBBY MARVIN
Name: Bobby Marvin Jones
Rank/Branch: O3/US Air Force
Unit: Udorn Airfield, Thailand
Date of Birth: 05 May 1945
Home City of Record: Macon GA
Loss Date: 28 November 1972
Country of Loss: South Vietnam
Loss Coordinates: 161500N 1080000E (ZC065915)
Status (in 1973): Missing In Action
Category: 4
Acft/Vehicle/Ground: F4D
Refno: 1949
Source: Compiled from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S.
Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families,
published sources, interviews. Updated by the P.O.W. NETWORK in 2008.
Other Personnel In Incident: Jack R. Harvey (missing)
REMARKS:
SYNOPSIS: On November 28, 1972, Jack Harvey and Bobby Jones were flying an
F4D Phantom jet on a non-combat flight from their base at Udorn, Thailand to
Da Nang, South Vietnam. The purpose of the mission was to log flight hours
for Jones, the only Flight Surgeon missing from the Vietnam War, to maintain
his Flight Surgeon status.
Shortly before arriving at Da Nang, when the aircraft was about 18 miles
northwest of its destination, it disappeared from the radar screen without
any voice contact. A few hours later, emergency signals were heard, but
rescue efforts were hampered by monsoon rains and enemy held territory. When
search teams were able to enter the area three days later, they did not
locate the crew of the F4D. No further word has surfaced on either Harvey or
Jones.
Examination of intelligence reports indicate that there was more than one
prison "system" in Vietnam. Those prisoners who were released in 1973 were
maintained in the same systems. If Jones was captured and kept in another
system, the POWs who returned did not know it.
Now, nearly 20 years later, men like Jones are all but forgotten except by
friends, family and fellow veterans. The U.S. "priority" placed on
determining their fates pales in comparison to the results it has achieved.
Since Jones went missing, over 6000 reports have been received by the U.S.
that Americans are still being held captive in Southeast Asia. Whether Jones
is among them is not known. What is certain, however, is that we, as a
nation, are guilty of the abandonment of nearly 2500 of our best and most
courageous men. We cannot forget, and must do everything in our power to
bring these men home.
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Mission to Vietnam gets personal
By RON MARTZ
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 02/24/07
Dalton - On three previous trips to Southeast Asia over the past two
decades, Jo Anne Shirley didn't have problems keeping her emotions in check
about the brother who disappeared in Vietnam nearly 35 years ago.
But on those occasions, Shirley was part of large, formal delegations
pressing diplomatic initiatives to persuade reluctant governments to provide
more information on American service members still unaccounted for as a
result of the Vietnam War.
        Charlotte B. Teagle/Staff
        
        'She's not timid a bit. She'll stand up to any general,' said
        Christine Jones (right) about her daughter, Jo Anne Shirley. Shirley
        leads a four-person group to Vietnam next month.
        Charlotte B. Teagle/Staff
        Wearing bracelets with Dr. Bobby Jones' name on them are Christine
        Jones (hands on left), Jones' mother, and Jo Anne Shirley, his
        sister. The Air Force major was a passenger in a two-seat F-4
        Phantom jet that disappeared near Da Nang on Nov. 28, 1972.
Next month, the self-described "housewife from Georgia" will lead a
four-person group - all relatives of men still missing - into the region to
make a more personal and emotional appeal on an issue that has largely lost
the attention of America.
"This issue can get so emotional at times it gets totally consuming,"
Shirley said recently at her Dalton home as she discussed the pending trip.
What will make this visit even more emotional for Shirley is that she will
visit a crash site excavation near where her brother disappeared.
Dr. Bobby Jones of Macon, an Air Force major, was a passenger in a two-seat
F-4 Phantom jet that disappeared near Da Nang, in what was then South
Vietnam, on Nov. 28, 1972. He is the only physician among the missing.
Shirley, now 59, was 25 when her brother was lost. Since then, she has
gotten progressively more active in demanding an accounting, not only for
her brother, but also for the 1,788 Americans still missing in Southeast
Asia, 34 from Georgia. She now leads the board of the National League of
Families of American Prisoners and Missing in Southeast Asia.
"She's not timid a bit. She'll stand up to any general," said Shirley's
mother, Christine Jones, also of Dalton. Although Jones is now 90, she
remains active in the search for information about her missing son,
attending yearly meetings of the National League of Families and offering
daily encouragement to her daughter.
The two-week trip will take the group to Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, where
the four relatives will meet with government officials and private citizens
and appeal to them to be more cooperative in the ongoing search for remains.
"I'm hoping the emotional appeal will help in some cases," Shirley said.
But she stressed that the four will not focus on the individual cases of
their missing relatives, two of whom disappeared in Vietnam and two in Laos.
"We're going representing all the families," she said.
The trip comes just four months after President Bush's November visit to
Vietnam, the first by an American president since the war. While Bush
pressed for better business ties between Vietnam and the United States,
families of the missing men believe the more government-to-government
accommodations that are made, the less leverage they have.
"That leaves us with very little to use to convince them to do what they can
do and what we know they can do," Shirley said.
Nevertheless, Shirley said she and her group will make personal appeals to
officials with the three governments for better access to previously
off-limits areas, including official archives, and providing more
information about the nearly 200 Americans known to be alive at the end of
the war but never accounted for. She also plans to press the Vietnamese to
follow through on a previous agreement to let U.S. Navy ships assist in
underwater searches for downed planes off the coast.
The trip will not be cheap. Shirley estimates it will cost $10,000 to
$12,000 for each of the four, all of which has to be raised from private
money or donations.
A nonprofit group, the Georgia Committee for POW/MIA, is helping Shirley
raise money. Tax-deductible donations can be made to the group in care of
Tommy Clack, 1329 Portman Drive, Suite A, Conyers, Ga. 30094.
Since the end of the war, 795 sets of remains have been recovered from
Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos and identified through a U.S. government agency
now known as the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command based in Hawaii.
But Shirley said more can be done.
"I believe in my heart we can still account for hundreds of Americans from
the Vietnam War," she said.
Published: July 30, 2008 08:10 pm   

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Call leads to 'relief' for Dalton family of Vietnam-era MIA

Victor Miller

Jo Anne Shirley likens it to “a big load lifted off your heart.”

Last week, the Dalton resident received a phone call with news she had been waiting almost 36 years to hear, apparently definitive information about what happened to her beloved brother, Maj. Bobby M. Jones, a U.S. Air Force flight surgeon who had been missing in action since Nov. 28, 1972, when the jet he was in disappeared from radar near Danang in South Vietnam.

Shirley, chairman of the board of directors of the National League of Families of American Prisoners and Missing in Southeast Asia, was with her mother, 91-year-old Christine Jones, when the call came from the Air Force Casualty Office. Shirley was told a “blood chit” — a military identification marker containing a number specific to her brother — had been found in June by a team led by a forensic anthropologist that was evaluating the site where a plane that was perhaps her brother’s had been excavated 11 years ago.

“It has a number on it and that number is lodged to your name,” Shirley said of the blood chit. “So Bobby would have a number, the pilot would have a different number, and if you come back, then they take that (number) out of the database and I guess they assign it to somebody else.

“If you don’t come back, then that number stays attached to your name until you get a resolution.”

When the blood chit was found, “they called Hawaii, where the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command is located, and said who does this number correlate to,” Shirley said. “And it correlates to my brother.”

Shirley and Christine Jones must still wait for a written report, “and the paper trail will be who knows how long exactly to get that,” Shirley said. But she called the information about the blood chit “huge for us.”

“We know two things,” she said. “We know the two people in that plane — an F4 is a two-seater — did not survive, and that Bobby was one of those.”

When the Air Force Casualty Office representative called, he asked, “Do I need to call mom?” Shirley recalled, “and I said no, she’s actually standing right here baking brownies for the National Guard. She was there, which was good timing, and we both cried.”

Shirley said it was “a huge relief” to finally know for sure what happened to her brother after all the years of family members attending meetings of the National League of Families — at first not knowing exactly what they were getting into — then Shirley taking on a leadership role — she has traveled on four delegations on behalf of families to Southeast Asia — and trying to rally the federal government to ensure an accounting for families similarly situated.

“It was like a big load is lifted off your heart,” she said. “We’ve known for a good while, we have felt this was Bobby’s crash site, and when they told us 11 years ago these two people didn’t survive I think part of the questions about ‘what if this,’ ‘what if that,’ were resolved at that time.

“But this is verification that he’s not a prisoner, he probably didn’t suffer, he was probably killed on impact.”

Still, questions remain.

A more extensive excavation of the site is planned. Asked when, Shirley said, “I have no idea. It could be a year. We have to get back on the schedule, weather comes into play, I don’t want to bump somebody off to get us back on there, so we’ll have to work into their schedule.”

“I have a lot of questions about this particular team and what they found,” Shirley said. “How do you find something that easily that they didn’t find if they did an extensive excavation 11 years ago? My plan is to wait on the report, wait on the excavation. I will talk to the forensic anthropologist at some point one on one even if I have to go to Hawaii to do that because I want to know where did they find this in proximity to where they dug before.”

She asked the Air Force Casualty Office representative, “What are our chances of recovering remains, when you go back and do this more extensive excavation?”

“And they believe there’s a really good chance at that,” Shirley said. “So they won’t close our case out until that new excavation is done and they either recover remains or do not. But even if they don’t, this is big for us, this is more closure than a lot of families will have, and it takes away that wondering, ‘What if? What if?’”

Shirley is thankful for all the support she has received from the Dalton-Whitfield community as her search for “an answer for Bobby” continued all these years. Bobby Jones was born May 5, 1945, in Macon and graduated with honors from Lanier High School for Boy. He received his undergraduate degree from the University of Georgia before graduating from the Medical College of Georgia in Augusta in 1971.

“I am so blessed to have that kind of support or we couldn’t continue to do what we do,” Shirley said.

And just because she now believes she knows what happened to her brother, her work on behalf of other families who are still seeking an accounting of loved ones won’t end.

“This issue is not over for us,” Shirley said. “We have so many friends that we’re close to that still don’t have a resolution. We will not quit or even diminish what we’re doing as far as trying to reach the fullest possible accounting because there are an awful lot of people still missing, and there are hundreds that we can recover and identify.

“There are a lot of families out there that can get the same closure we have if everybody will make sure that’s not put on the back burner.”





Shirley provided these numbers for soldiers unaccounted for and identified from some of the nation’s most recent wars:

• World War II: 74,374 unaccounted for (6,319 buried at sea), 453 identified

• Cold War: 127 unaccounted for, 20 identified

• Korean War: 8,055 unaccounted for, 101 identified

• Vietnam War: 1,757 unaccounted for, 889 identified

• Desert Storm: Three unaccounted for

• Iraq: One unaccounted for (translator), three identified (plus six civilian contractors)