CLEVE, REGINALD DAVID
Name: Reginald David Cleve Rank/Branch: W1/US Army MOS: 100B = Utility/Observation Helicopter Pilot Unit: 176th Aviation Company, 14th Aviation Battalion, 16th Aviation Group, 23rd Infantry Division (Americal) Flight Class 70-5/70-3 Date of Birth: 02 August 1947 (Bonne Terre MO) Home City of Record: Farmington MO Date of Loss: 22 March 1971 Country of Loss: Laos Loss Coordinates: 163623N 1063343E (XD666365) Status (in 1973): Killed/Body Not Recovered Category: 2 Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: UH1H #68-15759, total flight hours 1538 Call sign: Minuteman Refno: 1733
Other Personnel In Incident: Walter R. Hall; Donald P. Knutsen; John G. Traver (all missing)
Source: Compiled from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S. Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published sources, interviews. Updated by the P.O.W. NETWORK in 1998 with information provided through the Vietnam Helicopter Pilots Association.
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SYNOPSIS: The families of the men aboard the UH1H aircraft lost on March 22, 1971 were given the following account: On March 22, 1971, W1 Reginald Cleve, aircraft commander; W1 John G. Traver, pilot; SP4 Donald P. Knutsen, crew chief; and Walter R. Hall, door gunner, comprised the crew of a UH1H helicopter in a flight of five helicopters conducting an emergency resupply mission when the helicopter burst into flames and crashed.
The aircraft was flying at an altitude of about 5000 feet above sea level in Savannakhet Province, Laos, when it was fired upon by a hostile ground force and an explosion occurred in the cargo compartment. The helicopter impacted essentially in one piece and again exploded and continued to burn. No one was observed to exit the aircraft, and it was the opinion of the investigating committee that no one could have survived. No rescue attempts were made due to the heavy concentration of enemy troops and the aircraft fire in the area.
A family member of one of the crew states, "one reason for our feeling that he may still be alive is that his craft was hit, and he radioed to the leader of the mission that he would be forced to land. The remainder of the aircraft went on to deliver their cargoes, and as they returned to their base, they reportedly passed over this site. They saw (the downed helicopter) on the ground, but there was NOT any fire, nor did they see any of the men around it."
Because thousands of reports have been received that Americans are still alive in Indochina, and because distorted stories were given many family members, particularly relatives of those men missing in Laos (where we were "not at war"), it is understandable that many family members have lost faith in what they are told about the fates of their men.
Experts believe that hundreds of Americans may be alive today in Southeast Asia as captives. The crew aboard the UH1H lost that day in May 1971 could be among them. Surely they expected that they might be injured or killed. The thought that they might be abandoned probably never crossed their minds.
What are we doing to bring these men home?
1998 Cleve's family received little information regarding his loss over the years. His wife, after PFOD hearings, eventually remarried and raised a family, her loss buried deep within her. Cleve's father in law, a WWII veteran, knew the terrors that war held for his son-in-law. His admiration for Cleve never waned. At Thanksgiving dinner, 1998 the members of his family were astounded to find out that in the 80's reports of pictures of Cleve's dogtags had been received by the USG, and mentioned in Nigel Cawthorn's book, BAMBOO CAGE. Other post-war reports found in the LOC were just as shocking to them. The recently discovered information has given them new direction and renewed incentive to find out what truly happened to Reginald David Cleve.