CARR, DONALD GENE
09/2015 - Reports ID has been made, with remains found in Vietnam -
2018 burial and ID announcement.
|Name: Donald Gene Carr
Rank/Branch: O3/US Army Special Forces
Unit: Mobile Launch Team 3, Task Force 1 Advisory Group, assigned to USARV
TAG TF1AEN TSH
Date of Birth: 10 December 1938 (East Chicago IN)
Home City of Record: East Chicago IN
Date of Loss: 06 July 1971
Country of Loss: Laos
Loss Coordinates: 144700N 1071700E (YB460352)
Status (in 1973): Missing In Action
Other Personnel In Incident: Daniel W. Thomas (missing)
Official pre-capture photo
Source: Compiled from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S.
Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families,
published sources, interviews. Updated by the P.O.W. NETWORK in 2018.
SYNOPSIS: In 1971, MACV-SOG's Command and Control North, Central and South were
re-designated as Task Force Advisory Elements 1, 2 and 3, respectively. These
titular changes had little initial impact on actual activities. Their missions
were still quite sensitive and highly classified. Each task force was composed
of 244 Special Forces and 780 indigenous commandos, and their reconnaissance
teams remained actively engaged in cross-border intelligence collection and
interdiction operations. The USARV TAG (Training Advisory Group) supported the
USARV Special Missions Advisory Group and was composed of U.S. Army Special
Forces and MACV advisors. SMAG formed at Nha Trang from former personnel from
B-53, the MACV Rcondo School cadre, CCN and CCS to train the South Vietnamese
Special Missions Force teams drawn from LLDB and Ranger units.
On July 6, 1971, U.S. Army Capt. Donald G. "Butch" Carr was aboard an Air Force
OV10A Bronco aircraft flown by U.S. Air Force Lt. Daniel W. Thomas when the
aircraft disappeared 15 miles inside Laos west of Ben Het.
The aircraft had been on a visual reconnaissance mission over central Laos when
it was lost. Thomas' plane was detailed out of the 23rd Tactical Aerial
Surveillance Squadron and bore the tail number of 67-14634.
The Bronco was among the aircraft most feared by the Viet Cong and NVA forces,
because whenever the Bronco appeared overhead, an air strike seemed certain to
follow. Although the glassed-in cabin could become uncomfortably warm, it
provided splendid visibility. The two-man crew had armor protection and could
use machine guns and bombs to attack, as well as rockets to mark targets for
fighter bombers. This versatility enabled the plane to fly armed reconnaissance
missions, in addition to serving as vehicle for forward air controllers.
At 1530 hours, Thomas radioed to the Army support facility that he was in his
target area, but that he was unable to observe because of weather conditions.
This was his last known radio contact. Thomas and Carr were due to depart the
area at 1700 hours, and should have radioed then. Search efforts were conducted
through July 10, with no results.
A ground reconnaissance team later reported hearing an impact or explosion at
1600 hours on July 6 in their vicinity, but they did not report seeing the
A source reported that in early July 1971, he had seen an American POW in that
area. The source learned from a guard that the POW was a pilot of an OV10 that
had been downed a week prior. This information was thought to possibly
correlate to either Carr or Thomas.
Carr and Thomas became two of nearly 600 Americans who disappeared in Laos
during the Vietnam War. Although Pathet Lao leaders stressed that they held
"tens of tens" of American prisoners, no American held in Laos was ever
released. In America's haste to leave Southeast Asia, it abandoned some of its
finest men. Since the end of the war, thousands of reports have been received
indicating that hundreds of Americans are still held captive.
In seeming disregard for the Americans either held or having been murdered by
the Pathet Lao, by 1989, the U.S. and the Lao have devised a working plan for
the U.S. to provide Laos with humanitarian and economic aid leading toward
ultimate full diplomatic and trade relations while Laos allows the excavation
of military crash sites at sporadic intervals. In America's haste to return to
Southeast Asia, we are again abandoning our men. What must Carr and Thomas,
should they be among those said to be still alive, be thinking of us?
Airman Missing From Vietnam War Identified (Thomas)
March 7, 2017 —
U.S. Air Force Reserve Capt. Daniel W. Thomas, missing from
the Vietnam War, has now been accounted for.
On July 6, 1971, Thomas was the pilot of an OV-10A aircraft
with one other crewmember flying over central Laos in support of an
eight man Special Forces reconnaissance team. When the aircraft
arrived in the area, the weather was bad, however it was determined
that this would not affect the aircraft’s mission. Approximately
thirty minutes after the last radio transmission from the OV-10A
aircraft the ground team heard an impact or explosion to their
northeast, but could not determine the distance to the explosion.
Extensive search efforts failed to locate the crash site.
After multiple negative attempts to investigate the crash
site, in April 2014 a Vietnamese witness provided a photograph of an
ID tag associated with one of the two crewmembers. In August 2014,
possible human remains were approved for repatriation and
accessioned. DPAA analysis of aircraft wreckage and life support
items indicated both aircrew members were in the aircraft at the
time of impact. Additionally, through research, analysis, and DNA
testing, the DPAA Laboratory identified the second crewmember, Maj.
Donald Carr, in August 2015.
On April 12, 2016, the DPAA lab received dental remains, ID
tag, and other material evidence from the Vietnamese Office for
Seeking Missing Persons. Laboratory analysis of this evidence, as
well as circumstantial evidence were used in the identification of
Interment services are pending.
|NATIONAL LEAGUE OF FAMILIES OF AMERICAN PRISONERS AND
MISSING IN SOUTHEAST ASIA
UPDATE: April 1, 2017
AMERICANS RECENTLY ACCOUNTED FOR:
On March 28th, DPAA Statistics listed
three USMC personnel as recently accounted for:
Captain John A. House of
NY, Cpl Glyn L. Runnels, Jr.,
of AL, and LCpl John D. Killen, II,
of IA. All were listed as KIABNR on June
30, 1967, in South Vietnam.
Their remains were recovered in June, 2012, and identification was
authorized on December 22, 2015.
DPAA has not yet published the formal
announcement with interment plans. On March 7th, DPAA released an
announcement that Captain
Daniel W. Thomas, USAFR, listed as MIA on
July 6, 1971 in South Vietnam,
had been accounted for.
Remains were recovered by a
Recovery Team (URT) in August, 2014, and identified in August, 2015, as
those of Major Donald G.
the other person in the OV-10A piloted by Capt Thomas. Subsequent
recovery efforts by the URT and repatriation of additional remains
material in April, 2016, brought the more recent ID of Capt Thomas.
DPAA also listed on its website, under Statistics, the accounting
Colonel William E. Campbell, USAF,
listed as MIA in Laos January 29,
1969. His remains were recovered April 17, 2014, identified
2016, and his name was placed on the DPAA website as accounted for on
March 3rd. On February 22nd, DPAA announced
the ID of
Capt Robert R. Barnett, USAF,
listed as KIA/BNR on April 7, 1966 while piloting a B-57B over Laos. His
remains were recovered
June 18, 2015 and identified August 16, 2016.
Earlier this year, a Marine Corps Reserve officer,
1st Lt William C. Ryan,
was the first
person since June of 2016 announced as accounted for from
the Vietnam War. 1st Lt Ryan was listed KIA/BNR in Laos on May 11, 1969.
His remains were recovered January 27, 2016, and identified December 7,
Funeral Announcement For Soldier Killed During The
Vietnam War (Carr, D.)
Release No: 18-057 May 7, 2018
Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency (DPAA) announced today
that the remains of a U.S. serviceman, recently
accounted for from the Vietnam War, are being returned
to his family for burial with full military honors.
Army Maj. Donald G. Carr, 32, of San Antonio, accounted
for on Aug. 19, 2015, will be buried May 11, at San
Antonio National Cemetery. On July 6, 1971, Carr was
assigned to the Mobile Launch Team 3, 5th Special Forces
Group, as an observer in an OV-10A aircraft that
supported an eight-man Special Forces reconnaissance
team. During his mission, his aircraft encountered bad
weather. Shortly afterward, the ground team heard an
explosion to their northeast, which they believed to be
that of an OV-10A. They failed to locate the crash site,
however, and Carr was declared missing in action.
Between September 1991 and March 2014, joint U.S./Lao
Peoples’ Democratic Republic teams conducted more than
25 investigations and site surveys, but could not locate
In April 2014, a Vietnamese citizen contacted American
officials, claiming to know about possible American
remains in Kon Tum Province, Vietnam. Wreckage, photos,
personal effects, and remains were located and
transferred to DPAA, and later identified as Carr’s.
To identify Carr’s remains, scientists from DPAA and the
Armed Forces Medical Examiner System used circumstantial
evidence and DNA analysis, including mitochondrial DNA.
The support from the government and the people of
Vietnam was vital to the success of this recovery.
Today there are 1,598 American servicemen and civilians
still unaccounted for from the Vietnam War. Carr’s name
is recorded on the Courts of the Missing at the National
Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific in Honolulu, along with
others unaccounted-for from the Vietnam War. A rosette
will be placed next to his name to indicate he has been
For additional information on the Defense Department's
mission to account for Americans who went missing while
serving our country, visit the DPAA website at
www.dpaa.mil, find us on social media at
www.facebook.com/dodpaa or call (703) 699-1420/1169.
From: Ann Mills-Griffiths <email@example.com>
Sent: 16 May, 2018 17:19
To: Subject: Re: Video of MAJ Don Carr Memorial Service
This is short, but very meaningful, and reinforces all that we have
fought to achieve since inception. And I'm thankful for the help
and strong, responsible support of SOA and SFA members, especially
their joint POW/MIA Committee, chaired by L:TC Mike Taylor,
USA (Ret) who also serves as Vice President of SOA. This short video
features Mike who gave the eulogy for his friend,
Major Donald "Butch" Carr, USA.
League of POW/MIA Families